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<p>[QUOTE="DragonflyWink, post: 1445044, member: 111"]<i>No - it was not, the engraving was the owner's, not the maker's. </i>Silversmiths were craftsmen/tradesmen, and unlikely to have a coat of arms or family crest. The crest here, along with some other elements, has the wings on an ermine-lined chapeau (often baronial), it's surmounted by an ermine-banded coronet, most likely an earl's; the arms are quartered, showing the joining of different families. Depending on the wealth of the family, wouldn't be at all unusual to have very large services, split up in inheritances over the years.</p><p><br /></p><p>Locating a potential family connection involves finding a description that contains all the elements, which would lead to an individual (though sometimes, virtually identical crests belong to different people), the crest and arms may or may not have been passed on to descendants, but were often used anyway.</p><p><br /></p><p>Yours is complicated because there is so much going on - in a very quick look in just one book of crests, found three 'wings on a chapeau' right away and stopped there (probably several more to be found), but it's time-consuming. If yours could be found, with all the detail and the dating of the silver, would likely be a pretty firm identification, but I'm done for the moment, and it's probably well beyond me anyway...</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]224550[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]224551[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]224552[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>~Cheryl[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="DragonflyWink, post: 1445044, member: 111"][I]No - it was not, the engraving was the owner's, not the maker's. [/I]Silversmiths were craftsmen/tradesmen, and unlikely to have a coat of arms or family crest. The crest here, along with some other elements, has the wings on an ermine-lined chapeau (often baronial), it's surmounted by an ermine-banded coronet, most likely an earl's; the arms are quartered, showing the joining of different families. Depending on the wealth of the family, wouldn't be at all unusual to have very large services, split up in inheritances over the years. Locating a potential family connection involves finding a description that contains all the elements, which would lead to an individual (though sometimes, virtually identical crests belong to different people), the crest and arms may or may not have been passed on to descendants, but were often used anyway. Yours is complicated because there is so much going on - in a very quick look in just one book of crests, found three 'wings on a chapeau' right away and stopped there (probably several more to be found), but it's time-consuming. If yours could be found, with all the detail and the dating of the silver, would likely be a pretty firm identification, but I'm done for the moment, and it's probably well beyond me anyway... [ATTACH=full]224550[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]224551[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]224552[/ATTACH] ~Cheryl[/QUOTE]
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