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<p>[QUOTE="Any Jewelry, post: 335927, member: 2844"]My brain didn't work very well yesterday, slightly better today. So, for what it's worth:</p><p>In the case of PNG and other regions of the world, tourist items is a term not just for items bought locally by visiting tourists, but also bought by traders. There is nothing wrong with that, it provides an extra income for families.</p><p>So yes, they are 'real tribal' pieces, but not for traditional use, and not made in the style that was prevalent in these areas 150 years ago.</p><p><br /></p><p>When I lived in Oz in the late 60s-early 70s, ethnographic galleries were stacked with these carvings. They were even sold in shows in community centres. That's how I picked up the name of the village of the concentric ring masks, Misingi.</p><p><br /></p><p>The tall figures are a bit of a mystery to me. They are not like anything I know from Papua Gulf, where the faces are generally round or broad, like this:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]112586[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]112587[/ATTACH]</p><p><a href="http://www.art-pacific.com/artifacts/nuguinea/papuan/gulfcarv.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.art-pacific.com/artifacts/nuguinea/papuan/gulfcarv.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.art-pacific.com/artifacts/nuguinea/papuan/gulfcarv.htm</a></p><p>They are probably tourist items from West Irian, I can see some resemblance with traditional Irian styles.</p><p>By the way, I prefer the more neutral name West Irian to the politically charged name Irian Jaya. The Papua refugees I've met are not very fond of the term, to say the least. Jaya means victory, as in Indonesian victory. And consequently loss of any hope of Papuan independence.</p><p><br /></p><p>Anyway, I agree with komo, 1970s, possibly even as late as 1990s for the West Irian(?) figures, and made for sale.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Any Jewelry, post: 335927, member: 2844"]My brain didn't work very well yesterday, slightly better today. So, for what it's worth: In the case of PNG and other regions of the world, tourist items is a term not just for items bought locally by visiting tourists, but also bought by traders. There is nothing wrong with that, it provides an extra income for families. So yes, they are 'real tribal' pieces, but not for traditional use, and not made in the style that was prevalent in these areas 150 years ago. When I lived in Oz in the late 60s-early 70s, ethnographic galleries were stacked with these carvings. They were even sold in shows in community centres. That's how I picked up the name of the village of the concentric ring masks, Misingi. The tall figures are a bit of a mystery to me. They are not like anything I know from Papua Gulf, where the faces are generally round or broad, like this: [ATTACH=full]112586[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]112587[/ATTACH] [URL]http://www.art-pacific.com/artifacts/nuguinea/papuan/gulfcarv.htm[/URL] They are probably tourist items from West Irian, I can see some resemblance with traditional Irian styles. By the way, I prefer the more neutral name West Irian to the politically charged name Irian Jaya. The Papua refugees I've met are not very fond of the term, to say the least. Jaya means victory, as in Indonesian victory. And consequently loss of any hope of Papuan independence. Anyway, I agree with komo, 1970s, possibly even as late as 1990s for the West Irian(?) figures, and made for sale.[/QUOTE]
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