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<p>[QUOTE="George Chaney, post: 4512273, member: 19137"]I will give my thoughts on that phrase as I wasn't offended nor did I think it was judgmental. Here in the states (like other places) there are laws relating to carved ivory. While I am not certain, I believe it includes walrus tusk and whale tooth material. In order to sell or purchase, you must prove the piece predates the statute requirements (which is my belief on these bits and why I purchased them - if they are even Ivory which I will not know until I can evaluate them).</p><p><br /></p><p>So, just my opinion, I read the "not elephant friendly" to mean basically the laws regulating trade in such materials, thus making them "undesirable" and of "no value", which I believe was the intent of the regulations as it relates to commercial trade and personal ownership.</p><p><br /></p><p>While we need laws, I have always contended that when a law is made, it will make good upstanding people criminals, in many instances, through no fault of their own or make once valuable assets, worthless, again, through no fault of their own. All to quench the desire for some group to control what, how or if something can be done and who is allowed to do it or own it.</p><p><br /></p><p>As I tell my children, laws are a reflection of the morals of a society, and we are all going to live under someone's "moral compass"; these are the ones that will pass the laws you will eventually find yourself shackled with. The question then becomes, whose morals do you want to live under and that is kind of the struggle every society has to grapple with. In many nations, it is the difference to being a slave to the state (the law) or being free.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.gtlaw-culturalassets.com/2014/12/us-criteria-for-the-antique-exception-to-the-ivory-ban/#:~:text=Before%20the%20new%20rule%20went,Flora%20(CITES)%20ivory%20prohibition." target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.gtlaw-culturalassets.com/2014/12/us-criteria-for-the-antique-exception-to-the-ivory-ban/#:~:text=Before%20the%20new%20rule%20went,Flora%20(CITES)%20ivory%20prohibition." rel="nofollow">An interesting read</a> that kind of shows examples of all of the above....[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="George Chaney, post: 4512273, member: 19137"]I will give my thoughts on that phrase as I wasn't offended nor did I think it was judgmental. Here in the states (like other places) there are laws relating to carved ivory. While I am not certain, I believe it includes walrus tusk and whale tooth material. In order to sell or purchase, you must prove the piece predates the statute requirements (which is my belief on these bits and why I purchased them - if they are even Ivory which I will not know until I can evaluate them). So, just my opinion, I read the "not elephant friendly" to mean basically the laws regulating trade in such materials, thus making them "undesirable" and of "no value", which I believe was the intent of the regulations as it relates to commercial trade and personal ownership. While we need laws, I have always contended that when a law is made, it will make good upstanding people criminals, in many instances, through no fault of their own or make once valuable assets, worthless, again, through no fault of their own. All to quench the desire for some group to control what, how or if something can be done and who is allowed to do it or own it. As I tell my children, laws are a reflection of the morals of a society, and we are all going to live under someone's "moral compass"; these are the ones that will pass the laws you will eventually find yourself shackled with. The question then becomes, whose morals do you want to live under and that is kind of the struggle every society has to grapple with. In many nations, it is the difference to being a slave to the state (the law) or being free. [URL='https://www.gtlaw-culturalassets.com/2014/12/us-criteria-for-the-antique-exception-to-the-ivory-ban/#:~:text=Before%20the%20new%20rule%20went,Flora%20(CITES)%20ivory%20prohibition.']An interesting read[/URL] that kind of shows examples of all of the above....[/QUOTE]
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