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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;ValerieK, post: 9515939, member: 7360&quot;]Thank you all for your renewed interest, and particularly Kate Q for her translations of the Arabic.&nbsp; I&#039;ve looked up Ahmed ar-Rifa&#039;i on Wikipedia, and found he lived about 800 years ago, and he sounds like an extremely charitable person and great teacher.&nbsp; There must still be followers of his teachings in modern Egypt.&nbsp; I haven&#039;t found the venom connection yet, but will keep looking!&nbsp; The help from all of you has been tremendous![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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