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<p>[QUOTE="Brian Warshaw, post: 3611118, member: 16674"]I bought this lovely little coloured engraving for the princely sum of €1,50. It is one of a pair. Now I need some help understanding a couple of auctioneer's descriptions: -</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]307389[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]307390[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]307391[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]307393[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]307394[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p><b><i>Descriptions taken from two auctions:</i></b></p><p>First auction: -</p><p>Two prints -Pierre Antoine Baudouin 1723-1769 – Erotic Lover‘s Secret - Baudouin or Baudoin</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.catawiki.fr/l/29309391-two-prints-pierre-antoine-baudouin-1723-1769-2-seltene-erotische-bilder-lover-s-secret-baudouin-oder-nach-baudoin" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.catawiki.fr/l/29309391-two-prints-pierre-antoine-baudouin-1723-1769-2-seltene-erotische-bilder-lover-s-secret-baudouin-oder-nach-baudoin" rel="nofollow">https://www.catawiki.fr/l/29309391-two-prints-pierre-antoine-baudouin-1723-1769-2-seltene-erotische-bilder-lover-s-secret-baudouin-oder-nach-baudoin</a></p><p><br /></p><p>This lot consists of 2 rare prints on paper with the inscriptions “Baudoin pinx” and “D.... Sculp”. The inscriptions could be handwritten. Could be attributed to Pierre-Antoine Baudouin (French, 1723-1769).</p><p><br /></p><p>A beautiful engraving full of rich colours and with French stylisation from the 18th. century. Reminiscent of the work of Francois Boucher (French, 1703-1770), Baudouin was his apprentice and imitator.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Artist</b></p><p>Print - Pierre Antoine Baudouin 1723-1769</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Title of the artwork</b></p><p>Erotic Lover's Secret (This is one of a pair)</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Year</b></p><p>18th Century</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Technical</b></p><p>Print from copper engraving</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Signature</b></p><p>Signed in the plate</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Image size</b></p><p>13.7 × 10.4 cm</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Total dimensions</b></p><p>15.5 × 20 × 1.3 cm</p><p><br /></p><p>Second auction: -</p><p>Description:</p><p><br /></p><p><font size="5"><b>Pierre-Antoine Baudouin (French, 1723-1769) -- Fine Art</b></font></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/64064710_pierre-antoine-baudouin-french-1723-1769-fine-art" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/64064710_pierre-antoine-baudouin-french-1723-1769-fine-art" rel="nofollow">https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/64064710_pierre-antoine-baudouin-french-1723-1769-fine-art</a></p><p><br /></p><p>This lot consists of a fine art engraver's print on paper, with the inscription "Baudoin pinx" and "D.... Sculp" at bottom. Inscription could be handwritten. May be attributed to Pierre-Antoine Baudouin (French, 1723-1769). Image depicts a man and woman swept up in a lover's embrace. The lady smiles sweetly as her lover places a tender kiss on her cheek. They seem to have sought privacy in a handsomely decorated Rococo room, but a cracked door reveals the face of an intruder. A third figure -- perhaps a servant woman -- peers curiously through the opened door, one finger held to her lips as if she has just absorbed the secrecy of the moment. A lovely engraving, full of rich color and 18th century French stylization. Reminiscent of the work of François Boucher (French, 1703-1770), of whom Baudouin was an apprentice and imitator. Piece measures approximately 8" x 9".[THIS RELATES TO THE SECOND ENGRAVING PART OF A PAIR]</p><p><br /></p><p>QUESTIONS:</p><p>1 I can find no information relating to BAUDOIN although plenty of websites with pick and mismatch between the two names. Is this why the auctioneers suggest that BAUDOUIN is in fact posing as BAUDOIN?</p><p><br /></p><p>2 I learned from a submission yesterday that 'pinx[et] or pinx[it]' was Latin. The first meaning 'shading' and the second is 'retouched'. I found "Pinx." is an abreviation for "Prinxit", so there we are. I think this might be a deliberate clue BAUDOUIN is giving. </p><p><br /></p><p>3 'D....Scupt' is I assume the engraver. I have searched but failed to find an engraver of of that name. </p><p><br /></p><p>What I also learned was if you read one auctions description, you've read all auctioneers description. They don't seem to try original research, or even rewording. I expect I shall do the same when I put it sale.</p><p><br /></p><p>4 I also read on this site about a site similar to Ebay, that does take commission from sellers on the cost of postage/delivery. Could somebody jog my memory as to what it was?</p><p><br /></p><p>Thank you all.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Brian Warshaw, post: 3611118, member: 16674"]I bought this lovely little coloured engraving for the princely sum of €1,50. It is one of a pair. Now I need some help understanding a couple of auctioneer's descriptions: - [ATTACH=full]307389[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]307390[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]307391[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]307393[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]307394[/ATTACH] [B][I]Descriptions taken from two auctions:[/I][/B] First auction: - Two prints -Pierre Antoine Baudouin 1723-1769 – Erotic Lover‘s Secret - Baudouin or Baudoin [URL]https://www.catawiki.fr/l/29309391-two-prints-pierre-antoine-baudouin-1723-1769-2-seltene-erotische-bilder-lover-s-secret-baudouin-oder-nach-baudoin[/URL] This lot consists of 2 rare prints on paper with the inscriptions “Baudoin pinx” and “D.... Sculp”. The inscriptions could be handwritten. Could be attributed to Pierre-Antoine Baudouin (French, 1723-1769). A beautiful engraving full of rich colours and with French stylisation from the 18th. century. Reminiscent of the work of Francois Boucher (French, 1703-1770), Baudouin was his apprentice and imitator. [B]Artist[/B] Print - Pierre Antoine Baudouin 1723-1769 [B]Title of the artwork[/B] Erotic Lover's Secret (This is one of a pair) [B]Year[/B] 18th Century [B]Technical[/B] Print from copper engraving [B]Signature[/B] Signed in the plate [B]Image size[/B] 13.7 × 10.4 cm [B]Total dimensions[/B] 15.5 × 20 × 1.3 cm Second auction: - Description: [SIZE=5][B]Pierre-Antoine Baudouin (French, 1723-1769) -- Fine Art[/B][/SIZE] [URL]https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/64064710_pierre-antoine-baudouin-french-1723-1769-fine-art[/URL] This lot consists of a fine art engraver's print on paper, with the inscription "Baudoin pinx" and "D.... Sculp" at bottom. Inscription could be handwritten. May be attributed to Pierre-Antoine Baudouin (French, 1723-1769). Image depicts a man and woman swept up in a lover's embrace. The lady smiles sweetly as her lover places a tender kiss on her cheek. They seem to have sought privacy in a handsomely decorated Rococo room, but a cracked door reveals the face of an intruder. A third figure -- perhaps a servant woman -- peers curiously through the opened door, one finger held to her lips as if she has just absorbed the secrecy of the moment. A lovely engraving, full of rich color and 18th century French stylization. Reminiscent of the work of François Boucher (French, 1703-1770), of whom Baudouin was an apprentice and imitator. Piece measures approximately 8" x 9".[THIS RELATES TO THE SECOND ENGRAVING PART OF A PAIR] QUESTIONS: 1 I can find no information relating to BAUDOIN although plenty of websites with pick and mismatch between the two names. Is this why the auctioneers suggest that BAUDOUIN is in fact posing as BAUDOIN? 2 I learned from a submission yesterday that 'pinx[et] or pinx[it]' was Latin. The first meaning 'shading' and the second is 'retouched'. I found "Pinx." is an abreviation for "Prinxit", so there we are. I think this might be a deliberate clue BAUDOUIN is giving. 3 'D....Scupt' is I assume the engraver. I have searched but failed to find an engraver of of that name. What I also learned was if you read one auctions description, you've read all auctioneers description. They don't seem to try original research, or even rewording. I expect I shall do the same when I put it sale. 4 I also read on this site about a site similar to Ebay, that does take commission from sellers on the cost of postage/delivery. Could somebody jog my memory as to what it was? Thank you all.[/QUOTE]
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