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<p>[QUOTE="Any Jewelry, post: 9734208, member: 2844"]I find the slightly Chinese features of the woman interesting on a personal level.</p><p>I am a descendant of one of the nine saints of Java.</p><p>My 'saintly' ancestor was born in Samarkand, Uzbekistan, but he was of Arab and Persian origin. He was known as Ibrahim al Samarkandi.</p><p>Ibrahim came from a long line of Islamic teachers and theologians, descendants of the Prophet Muhammad, and he was sent to the Islamic kingdom of Champa to teach.</p><p>Champa was a kingdom along the coast of what is presently Vietnam. In Champa he married into the royal family. It is important for Islamic royal families to have a bloodtie with the prophet.</p><p>After a few years the Vietnamese invaded prosperous Champa, and the royal family had to flee the country. Ibrahim and his Champa princess fled to Java, where the sister of the princess had married the king. They became part of the royal household, and Ibrahim continued to teach. In those days the Javanese royals embraced all faiths on the island.</p><p><br /></p><p>So there is complicated story in a nutshell. I won't test you on it.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie75" alt=":playful:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>In light of this story, I wonder if your lady's features aren't slightly Chinese, but actually meant to be Vietnamese, from Champa.</p><p>I guess we'll never know.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Any Jewelry, post: 9734208, member: 2844"]I find the slightly Chinese features of the woman interesting on a personal level. I am a descendant of one of the nine saints of Java. My 'saintly' ancestor was born in Samarkand, Uzbekistan, but he was of Arab and Persian origin. He was known as Ibrahim al Samarkandi. Ibrahim came from a long line of Islamic teachers and theologians, descendants of the Prophet Muhammad, and he was sent to the Islamic kingdom of Champa to teach. Champa was a kingdom along the coast of what is presently Vietnam. In Champa he married into the royal family. It is important for Islamic royal families to have a bloodtie with the prophet. After a few years the Vietnamese invaded prosperous Champa, and the royal family had to flee the country. Ibrahim and his Champa princess fled to Java, where the sister of the princess had married the king. They became part of the royal household, and Ibrahim continued to teach. In those days the Javanese royals embraced all faiths on the island. So there is complicated story in a nutshell. I won't test you on it.:playful: In light of this story, I wonder if your lady's features aren't slightly Chinese, but actually meant to be Vietnamese, from Champa. I guess we'll never know.[/QUOTE]
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