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<p>[QUOTE="Taupou, post: 10194522, member: 45"]This has to be either pre-historic Casas Grandes, which dates 1250-1450 A.D., or it is called "Mata Ortiz", after the village in Mexico where it is made, which dates from the 1970's to the present. </p><p><br /></p><p>In 1450 Paquime, the center of Casas Crandes culture burned, and the inhabitants vanished. There are no known descendants.</p><p><br /></p><p>The area around the ancient city was uninhabited until the early 1900's, when the village of Mata Ortiz was started, first as a railroad camp, later as the site of a timber company, and finally as a farming town. All of the inhabitants came from other parts of Mexico. And none claim any tribal affiliation. They consider themselves simply “Mexican."</p><p><br /></p><p>I would think it dates to the 1970s. The style itself is associated with the area of Porvenir, a barrio of Mata Ortiz. Potters there are accomplished in creating "copies" of</p><p>prehistoric pots, after the Mexican government made it against the law to sell the genuine article. They were so good at making "replicas", that even famous museums ended up with the copies in their collections. (One of the reasons most pottery now is incised with the potter's name.) The general style has also changed somewhat, to a more modern "look." </p><p><br /></p><p>An article published by the <u>Journal of the Southwest</u> (Spring 2012), contains some of the more recent research results about Mata Ortiz pottery, and can be found by a web search for: </p><p><br /></p><p>" Reconstructing a Miracle: New Perspectives</p><p>on Mata Ortiz Pottery Making "[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Taupou, post: 10194522, member: 45"]This has to be either pre-historic Casas Grandes, which dates 1250-1450 A.D., or it is called "Mata Ortiz", after the village in Mexico where it is made, which dates from the 1970's to the present. In 1450 Paquime, the center of Casas Crandes culture burned, and the inhabitants vanished. There are no known descendants. The area around the ancient city was uninhabited until the early 1900's, when the village of Mata Ortiz was started, first as a railroad camp, later as the site of a timber company, and finally as a farming town. All of the inhabitants came from other parts of Mexico. And none claim any tribal affiliation. They consider themselves simply “Mexican." I would think it dates to the 1970s. The style itself is associated with the area of Porvenir, a barrio of Mata Ortiz. Potters there are accomplished in creating "copies" of prehistoric pots, after the Mexican government made it against the law to sell the genuine article. They were so good at making "replicas", that even famous museums ended up with the copies in their collections. (One of the reasons most pottery now is incised with the potter's name.) The general style has also changed somewhat, to a more modern "look." An article published by the [U]Journal of the Southwest[/U] (Spring 2012), contains some of the more recent research results about Mata Ortiz pottery, and can be found by a web search for: " Reconstructing a Miracle: New Perspectives on Mata Ortiz Pottery Making "[/QUOTE]
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