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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;lizjewel, post: 2843796, member: 13874&quot;]May I add that I am not trying to start a <i>Vegans R Us</i> thread here. I am not against eating beef and I wear fur too, rabbit and fox, both <i>pests</i> if allowed to profilerate unchecked.</p><p><br /></p><p>However, it is well known that in some faraway lands where&nbsp; people are very poor anything that can be killed and sold is tolerated.</p><p><br /></p><p>What I meant to say, and thought I had, is that <i>killing rare and beautiful animals because something on/in them has become valuable</i> as luxury items for the very very rich is something I can&#039;t abide very well.</p><p><br /></p><p>Ivory is one of those things.</p><p><br /></p><p>No one NEEDS ivory for survival. Even pianos can now have keys made of other materials than ivory.</p><p><br /></p><p>Meat to be eaten and when part of the food chain we&#039;ve have learned to accept. Frivolous&nbsp; killing for other reasons than to eat is not acceptable to me. And if some animals are killed for their meat and their furs and other parts are byproducts it&#039;s alright with me too.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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