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Message:: [QUOTE="Aarone, post: 9772065, member: 83202"]I already agreed that pattern glass is pressed glass so "cut" is no longer in question. (no doubt some, somewhere, had added cut features). However, EAPG does not imply lime glass. First, there is a lot of pressed flint with a pattern (more on what that does and doesn't mean below).  Though soda-lime glass became dominant after the Civil War, firms such as the Ohio Flint Glass Co, the Model Flint Glass Co, the Cooperative Flint Glass Co, the Richards and Hartley Flint Glass Co, McKee & Brothers Flint Glass etc were still making pressed flint items as late as 1907; ref "Encyclopedia of Antique Pattern Glass" (Kamm-Wood 1961).  The "Collector's Encyclopedia of Pattern Glass (McCain 1994) also lists dozens of patterns by the same firms.  The "Warner Collectors Guide to Pressed Glass" (Grow 1982) compares soda-lime and flint glass as materials, and their periods of dominance.  The "Glass Value & Identification Guide" (Warman's 2002) states that some pressed patterns are found in both flint and soda-lime. However - despite some authors above using "Pattern Glass" to describe all pressed glass with a pattern - it's probably most proper to narrow "EAPG" to include only glass made in multiple forms with one distinct pattern eg. a table setting.  Which would still include many of the flint patterns found in the above. This is in line with "American Pressed Glass 1825-1915" (Husfloen 1992) pg28+ which indicates that the Lacy period of pressed flint glass can be excluded from "EAPG" because, though patterned, it wasn't typically a line comprising an easily-recognized design in a number of matching forms.  But following that there was an increasing emphasis on coherent pattern lines, produced first in flint.  Husfloen details the so-called Colonials pattern of ~1845-1865 and says "By the end of the Civil War, many American households [had] at least a four-piece table setting [of] flint glass." As for "the content of the books by the authors mentioned": ---------------Early American Pattern Glass 2nd Ed (Reilly & Jenks) pg 7: "American Pressed Glass chronologically falls into three well-defined periods.  (A) The Lacy Period.  (B) The Flint Period.  (C) The Non-flint period."  These authors do, like Husfloen, narrow "EAPG" to mean pressed items in a pattern extending across at least a 4-piece table setting.  But that occurred in both the flint and non-flint periods.  The authors describe many lines of flint, beginning around 1850.  See pg14: "The majority of EAPG [is collected by] pattern [because] this is the way that pressed pattern glass production evolved in the 1850s [i.e.] mass production of many different forms in the same pattern.  [Eg.] Bellflower, the earliest pattern produced in a wide variety of forms [is] from the flint period of EAPG production."  They list other early flint patterns as Horn of Plenty, New England Pineapple and Early Thumbprint, Cable, Bulls Eye and Diamond Point, Washington, Diamond Thumbprint, and Magnet and Grape with Frosted Leaf. ----------------Early American Pattern Glass 1850-1910 (Jenks & Luna 1990) pp xiii, 26 etc This has many examples of flint pressed glass patterns that came in a range of forms comprising large table sets, and which certainly qualify as EAPG.  Argus, Ashburton, Bigler, Blaze, Brilliant, Buckle... etc.  Flint is of course in the minority in this later period but still very present. -----------------Early American Pattern Glass (two books) (Metz 1978) Lists dozens of flint patterns, many of which comprised multiple forms eg. goblet, spooner, butter, compote, pitcher, creamer so are by any definition "EAPG".[/QUOTE]

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