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<p>[QUOTE="kentworld, post: 9583718, member: 35"]Please excuse me, but I took the liberty of posting a couple of photos on another forum of which I'm a moderator. Below are the 2 comments about a possible factory. </p><p><br /></p><p>Nice group of early C19th hand painted teawares! Not sure of factory, but the plain loop handle points toward John or Thomas Rose at Coalport. A view of the handle of the creamer would help. The landscape on it is definitely Coalport-ish.</p><p><br /></p><p>Hand painted, I am also thinking Coalport.</p><p><br /></p><p>So, if correct (and and comments are from posters who know a great deal about English porcelain) that would place these pieces from the beginning of the 19th c. I've included a couple tidbits from googling John and Thomas Rose:</p><p><br /></p><p>"The original 1795 porcelain factory of John Rose & Co. is now a youth hostel. The nearby <a href="https://www.ironbridge.org.uk/explore/coalport-china-museum/#overview" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.ironbridge.org.uk/explore/coalport-china-museum/#overview" rel="nofollow"><u>Coalport China Museum</u></a> is on the site of a rival factory in which John Rose’s younger brother Thomas Rose was a partner. The two factories were only separated by a stretch of the Coalport Canal (since filled) and competed fiercely for fourteen years in what has been dubbed the ‘War of the Roses.’ John Rose was the eventual victor, acquiring Anstice, Horton & Rose in 1814. Contemporary porcelains of the two factories usually bore no mark and can be difficult to tell apart.</p><p><br /></p><p>Geoffrey Godden writes that Coalport porcelains prior to about 1815 were ‘of the hybrid hard-paste type: while often rather heavily potted, they were durable and in general well-produced and decorated.’<a href="https://www.cotswold-antiques.com/coalport-john-rose/#_edn1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cotswold-antiques.com/coalport-john-rose/#_edn1" rel="nofollow"></a><i> They were obviously in high demand, as John Rose & Co. was prosperous enough to have absorbed two other factories."</i></p><p><i><a href="https://www.cotswold-antiques.com/coalport-john-rose/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cotswold-antiques.com/coalport-john-rose/" rel="nofollow">https://www.cotswold-antiques.com/coalport-john-rose/</a></i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>I was interested in Godden's mark as the sort of orange-peel look to the base of the creamer had me curious.</i>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="kentworld, post: 9583718, member: 35"]Please excuse me, but I took the liberty of posting a couple of photos on another forum of which I'm a moderator. Below are the 2 comments about a possible factory. Nice group of early C19th hand painted teawares! Not sure of factory, but the plain loop handle points toward John or Thomas Rose at Coalport. A view of the handle of the creamer would help. The landscape on it is definitely Coalport-ish. Hand painted, I am also thinking Coalport. So, if correct (and and comments are from posters who know a great deal about English porcelain) that would place these pieces from the beginning of the 19th c. I've included a couple tidbits from googling John and Thomas Rose: "The original 1795 porcelain factory of John Rose & Co. is now a youth hostel. The nearby [URL='https://www.ironbridge.org.uk/explore/coalport-china-museum/#overview'][U]Coalport China Museum[/U][/URL] is on the site of a rival factory in which John Rose’s younger brother Thomas Rose was a partner. The two factories were only separated by a stretch of the Coalport Canal (since filled) and competed fiercely for fourteen years in what has been dubbed the ‘War of the Roses.’ John Rose was the eventual victor, acquiring Anstice, Horton & Rose in 1814. Contemporary porcelains of the two factories usually bore no mark and can be difficult to tell apart. Geoffrey Godden writes that Coalport porcelains prior to about 1815 were ‘of the hybrid hard-paste type: while often rather heavily potted, they were durable and in general well-produced and decorated.’[URL='https://www.cotswold-antiques.com/coalport-john-rose/#_edn1'][i][/i][/URL][i] They were obviously in high demand, as John Rose & Co. was prosperous enough to have absorbed two other factories." [URL]https://www.cotswold-antiques.com/coalport-john-rose/[/URL] I was interested in Godden's mark as the sort of orange-peel look to the base of the creamer had me curious.[/i][/QUOTE]
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