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<p>[QUOTE="Dave47, post: 592153, member: 10417"]I am now old - but the professional dealers I have known do not like to start any auction there under about 75% of "fair." And they always accept returns of the original item (substituting a fake will not be tolerated - and people have tried that. eBay also allows a "formal reserve price" as well. </p><p><br /></p><p>I also fear I wonder how (in at least one seller's case) the seller says that the seller made the item, and could still call it "real" because it has "real silver" in it, and the like. <a href="https://www.pymnts.com/news/2015/ebay-paypal-face-trademark-infringement-lawsuit/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.pymnts.com/news/2015/ebay-paypal-face-trademark-infringement-lawsuit/" rel="nofollow">https://www.pymnts.com/news/2015/ebay-paypal-face-trademark-infringement-lawsuit/</a> </p><p><a href="http://www.thefashionlaw.com/home/chanel-gucci-file-suit-against-individual-online-marketplace-sellers" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.thefashionlaw.com/home/chanel-gucci-file-suit-against-individual-online-marketplace-sellers" rel="nofollow">http://www.thefashionlaw.com/home/chanel-gucci-file-suit-against-individual-online-marketplace-sellers</a></p><p><a href="https://wwd.com/business-news/legal/chanel-is-suing-the-realreal-1202911368/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://wwd.com/business-news/legal/chanel-is-suing-the-realreal-1202911368/" rel="nofollow">https://wwd.com/business-news/legal/chanel-is-suing-the-realreal-1202911368/</a></p><p><i>Lawyers for The RealReal cited an earlier case between Tiffany & Co. and <a href="https://wwd.com/tag/ebay/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://wwd.com/tag/ebay/" rel="nofollow">eBay</a>, where the courts found that <b>a seller can use another company’s trademark if it’s necessary to describe the products</b>, as long as it does not imply a false affiliation with the original company. </i></p><p><br /></p><p>This is not a new problem, but it is an ongoing one. </p><p><br /></p><p>If the item is real, great. But if the seller is overseas and comes up with lots of "real silver" goods, the odds are that returns are not accepted. So paying based on "over melt" may be safe enough, but that is about it.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Dave47, post: 592153, member: 10417"]I am now old - but the professional dealers I have known do not like to start any auction there under about 75% of "fair." And they always accept returns of the original item (substituting a fake will not be tolerated - and people have tried that. eBay also allows a "formal reserve price" as well. I also fear I wonder how (in at least one seller's case) the seller says that the seller made the item, and could still call it "real" because it has "real silver" in it, and the like. [URL]https://www.pymnts.com/news/2015/ebay-paypal-face-trademark-infringement-lawsuit/[/URL] [URL]http://www.thefashionlaw.com/home/chanel-gucci-file-suit-against-individual-online-marketplace-sellers[/URL] [URL]https://wwd.com/business-news/legal/chanel-is-suing-the-realreal-1202911368/[/URL] [I]Lawyers for The RealReal cited an earlier case between Tiffany & Co. and [URL='https://wwd.com/tag/ebay/']eBay[/URL], where the courts found that [B]a seller can use another company’s trademark if it’s necessary to describe the products[/B], as long as it does not imply a false affiliation with the original company. [/I] This is not a new problem, but it is an ongoing one. If the item is real, great. But if the seller is overseas and comes up with lots of "real silver" goods, the odds are that returns are not accepted. So paying based on "over melt" may be safe enough, but that is about it.[/QUOTE]
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