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<p>[QUOTE="say_it_slowly, post: 9517381, member: 50"]While it doesn't make me think New Hall, I don't know enough about them to say for sure it isn't but I do know they used N or No in hand painted red with their pattern numbers.</p><p><br /></p><p>From: British Pottery and Porcelain by Henry Sandon</p><p><br /></p><p>"Early pattern numbers were usually written in large red, puce or black figures, often with prefix N or No. It is now realised that many wares that used to be called New Hall are in fact from other Staffordshire factories who were imitators; their names are not yet known and they are called X, Y and Z."</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>From An Illustrated Encyclopedia of British Pottery and Porcelain by Geoffrey Godden</p><p><br /></p><p>"The early wares often bear pattern numbers, prefixed by "N" or "No" painted in a bold free manner (see Plate 441), never small and neat; in teasets only the larger pieces would be marked, not the cups and saucers. The highest number recorded on the early hard-paste porcelains is 940."</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AIL4fc_rABaVQEHU5hKw-_3c8JpW8uQjKcJrjvUvPM6KXKjj8EGltx7XJnnJKGVpN_D-PFZjyV0zj3PGSDum9R1xQIQZxd3sphhojKuaI6tuW2AVXmehgbKUak38YNPgGUb1rIEbJWwN6Nu2RQkqzT9wBXaIYe8Sz5AFXIUJxZrrclqYTe56gaECkrhBRbXLRYk6HaNtdgrk-XtP-vtc4dPckJ5P-MSxZA7XM81hlvIgit0jkjMxFpg_ZrWqpU9lzhtuRqIPLaMNu8d-MIty4OXlAd8JgL8GCgn1eIH_rX6WdOsGsoLjaLiA618AAleB-PpOvcTs_PDcD4J5nP5-2WALIzsaJqT5hIZWNqMW7Tf-MrBMiFC4vgnZ9PCk3gnLtI-Dr2xKBCRW2LdqZ0LD7o3x79li_nkEYI-8ucwMW0MkUWJPTNmyHiNi8pHS9NvwBY3pizf2CHUI07konVHG-YIpp-ieglhXHYu_yzzLxLNN8oWzt-zItEMFLzGLJlQRUiz-T4j2pl1w9f9lvT9gwiju_2nWpl6FyXrB_CH1QgBGZM0HNqPV53JSVMvbB2QUPyrwaneyliqV1M89NDip9O2G4u1fxeMW_11JcLUbQDA7bGYWzr79axb3FXDOs-lz4y9dKJeC5SH0kDPoG_xogUcmO7ltXKvSwzLdRZg0ZcByM8oakKOy4hRb5S4sOo-Vna3vCQOXVEf6sHHapEAQGKCVpyS1oTb-LwOSj-j6ZH7WE6NjApWwbe1cUl5dFPv7pJLDiUvFkUAh-8cpIhASvUt0KXpqD12qQY7RIDIWQnstfMikrx5n8xZEa7vUD7R3TVoxF0l8DEagEkcSDlKRLRwA8yYof42u8k9wsoylYFIzC4zo_jaGxMRFbhcYlwqm0HZqQGWUQA8rReOzeX7TqfBT7_S_D1M=w801-h457-s-no?authuser=0" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AIL4fc_V2CV7NSlX60vfq6JtatTOy75S1FqsNOq69HsXs2mF5pgXMnne3X_kxrzNKFbGLdtCxO4xc08MlWF5Wzvl5OaDq0Y9tnfnR9EMsCc919ef73dgURRNmYMOwkIIt6CL3KvjqvW3HJd48qljZTO2cgf0Y5o5IfMVt81tIVlxw7zvaNrJwd8uCn2NZBylPlpzLeSTPwcom-jB0KorH0V5O_baP6hitnPfGcEiRo1lszPyBLuKk-qMi7tAUqysy-mwNRyyMroPUxr3mqDrh_I5qDQArs4PXBUmlmtjWZvmhJNwmJ_Bnbky2S3oQbBwwEhrekXamImw3SYj5Tk_XPvj43skZpGGu2jd5jPtQPjgS9hTMO5U0KdKRMOHqn9D1gJyllaRBkx1msdrzuzNIpsBDwjCHzTUM1w0qnEpQXz3fjm1B2fQieDnoyGglFj0rHQk065UuGGIqV0QSkpxUiBSlmxAF3bdVClbioCaosl4nu5j9YNxlLT6-tugUwsNGX0WPJy_oHhguzBlB4zlSQu3L1cDHbwuGcrTA5njbzR4oj9-awo7N9in3Fp-nEHK2y2RjguSC0BxX7uWHn5Sxnr6ebpEP3ytjCpDNphkTGAtqMGFL0b68eK8h_swzD6WZNDVVLToscZOTVeDmysvv_lo7ZLXrZYUBWgCDaNaqNicyZeV8xEnPUtAlljW4_8LLQ8ltqEbNpcqIpDT3I7bFkknKWyPruy-vK-KgLZkII9Pxkc7So--3Y92LS4SOdTBaGn9rxouQ9CMTWKAPbmuBe7iS2CtHx6s6sW0q3phldX94AJQi0DMwGzIVLqFBGfPDJ2SAVfwTYfwvrBxdslcQozn8er51tJDaVka3KsG324g_14TxLVWVeHcIsHl5IDcd51Pi3a7FR3IHlMrTU7PizbS3Lwb06Q=w794-h406-s-no?authuser=0" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="say_it_slowly, post: 9517381, member: 50"]While it doesn't make me think New Hall, I don't know enough about them to say for sure it isn't but I do know they used N or No in hand painted red with their pattern numbers. From: British Pottery and Porcelain by Henry Sandon "Early pattern numbers were usually written in large red, puce or black figures, often with prefix N or No. It is now realised that many wares that used to be called New Hall are in fact from other Staffordshire factories who were imitators; their names are not yet known and they are called X, Y and Z." From An Illustrated Encyclopedia of British Pottery and Porcelain by Geoffrey Godden "The early wares often bear pattern numbers, prefixed by "N" or "No" painted in a bold free manner (see Plate 441), never small and neat; in teasets only the larger pieces would be marked, not the cups and saucers. The highest number recorded on the early hard-paste porcelains is 940." [IMG]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AIL4fc_rABaVQEHU5hKw-_3c8JpW8uQjKcJrjvUvPM6KXKjj8EGltx7XJnnJKGVpN_D-PFZjyV0zj3PGSDum9R1xQIQZxd3sphhojKuaI6tuW2AVXmehgbKUak38YNPgGUb1rIEbJWwN6Nu2RQkqzT9wBXaIYe8Sz5AFXIUJxZrrclqYTe56gaECkrhBRbXLRYk6HaNtdgrk-XtP-vtc4dPckJ5P-MSxZA7XM81hlvIgit0jkjMxFpg_ZrWqpU9lzhtuRqIPLaMNu8d-MIty4OXlAd8JgL8GCgn1eIH_rX6WdOsGsoLjaLiA618AAleB-PpOvcTs_PDcD4J5nP5-2WALIzsaJqT5hIZWNqMW7Tf-MrBMiFC4vgnZ9PCk3gnLtI-Dr2xKBCRW2LdqZ0LD7o3x79li_nkEYI-8ucwMW0MkUWJPTNmyHiNi8pHS9NvwBY3pizf2CHUI07konVHG-YIpp-ieglhXHYu_yzzLxLNN8oWzt-zItEMFLzGLJlQRUiz-T4j2pl1w9f9lvT9gwiju_2nWpl6FyXrB_CH1QgBGZM0HNqPV53JSVMvbB2QUPyrwaneyliqV1M89NDip9O2G4u1fxeMW_11JcLUbQDA7bGYWzr79axb3FXDOs-lz4y9dKJeC5SH0kDPoG_xogUcmO7ltXKvSwzLdRZg0ZcByM8oakKOy4hRb5S4sOo-Vna3vCQOXVEf6sHHapEAQGKCVpyS1oTb-LwOSj-j6ZH7WE6NjApWwbe1cUl5dFPv7pJLDiUvFkUAh-8cpIhASvUt0KXpqD12qQY7RIDIWQnstfMikrx5n8xZEa7vUD7R3TVoxF0l8DEagEkcSDlKRLRwA8yYof42u8k9wsoylYFIzC4zo_jaGxMRFbhcYlwqm0HZqQGWUQA8rReOzeX7TqfBT7_S_D1M=w801-h457-s-no?authuser=0[/IMG] [IMG]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AIL4fc_V2CV7NSlX60vfq6JtatTOy75S1FqsNOq69HsXs2mF5pgXMnne3X_kxrzNKFbGLdtCxO4xc08MlWF5Wzvl5OaDq0Y9tnfnR9EMsCc919ef73dgURRNmYMOwkIIt6CL3KvjqvW3HJd48qljZTO2cgf0Y5o5IfMVt81tIVlxw7zvaNrJwd8uCn2NZBylPlpzLeSTPwcom-jB0KorH0V5O_baP6hitnPfGcEiRo1lszPyBLuKk-qMi7tAUqysy-mwNRyyMroPUxr3mqDrh_I5qDQArs4PXBUmlmtjWZvmhJNwmJ_Bnbky2S3oQbBwwEhrekXamImw3SYj5Tk_XPvj43skZpGGu2jd5jPtQPjgS9hTMO5U0KdKRMOHqn9D1gJyllaRBkx1msdrzuzNIpsBDwjCHzTUM1w0qnEpQXz3fjm1B2fQieDnoyGglFj0rHQk065UuGGIqV0QSkpxUiBSlmxAF3bdVClbioCaosl4nu5j9YNxlLT6-tugUwsNGX0WPJy_oHhguzBlB4zlSQu3L1cDHbwuGcrTA5njbzR4oj9-awo7N9in3Fp-nEHK2y2RjguSC0BxX7uWHn5Sxnr6ebpEP3ytjCpDNphkTGAtqMGFL0b68eK8h_swzD6WZNDVVLToscZOTVeDmysvv_lo7ZLXrZYUBWgCDaNaqNicyZeV8xEnPUtAlljW4_8LLQ8ltqEbNpcqIpDT3I7bFkknKWyPruy-vK-KgLZkII9Pxkc7So--3Y92LS4SOdTBaGn9rxouQ9CMTWKAPbmuBe7iS2CtHx6s6sW0q3phldX94AJQi0DMwGzIVLqFBGfPDJ2SAVfwTYfwvrBxdslcQozn8er51tJDaVka3KsG324g_14TxLVWVeHcIsHl5IDcd51Pi3a7FR3IHlMrTU7PizbS3Lwb06Q=w794-h406-s-no?authuser=0[/IMG][/QUOTE]
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