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<p>[QUOTE="Ladybranch, post: 205421, member: 44"]I'm back. Delighted to see that Quicky and TallCakes have chimed in. Gee, how can we tell if a "Bellflower" is by B&S or McKee. Barlow & Kaiser's <i>The Glass Industry in Sandwich,</i> Vol. 1, has Sandwich's ribbed patterns of "Ribbed Acorn," "Ribbed Bellflower" AKA Bellflower, "Ribbed Grape," "Ribbed Ivy," "Ribbed Palm" and "Reeded" AKA "Fine RIb." The pic of "Bellflower" is on a goblet. Here is what they say about the "Bellflower" pattern;</p><p><br /></p><p>p. 176, #1213</p><p>"Pressed Bellflower (R.L.) Goblet</p><p>"6 1/4" H. x 3 1/4" Dia. 1855-1875</p><p>"A bell-shaped, tulip-like blossom on a continuous undulating vine is called <i>Bellflower</i> by collectors. McKee and Brothers listed the pattern as "R.L.", thought to be an abbreviation for Ribbed Leaf, but the terminology of that time suggests that "R.L." stood for <i>Reeded and Leaf</i>. Three elements appear on the vine: the bellflower, a single leaf and a group of three berries resembling a three leaf clover. There are many variations in pattern, form and mold design. Vertical ribs can be spaced closely together, in which case the article called 'fine rib'. A heavier, wider rib is known as 'coarse rib'. On some variants, two undulating vines intertwine, but this 'double vine' cannot be documented as a Sandwich product. All fragments dug at the Boston and Sandwich Glass Company site have only a single vine. Because Bellflower was manufactured during the time that glass factories were converting from flint to litharge and non-flint formulas, quality varies tremendously. Reproductions abound, many produced in clear and color by the Imperial Glass Company for The Metropolitan Museum of Art."</p><p><br /></p><p>I can't tell if your salt has a single or "two undulating vines." According to the above, the "'double vine' cannot be documented as a Sandwich product."</p><p><br /></p><p>Wonder how to the tell the difference between B&S & McKee Bellflower. Like TallCakes said, eapgpatterns credits McKee with the Bellflower patterns of:</p><p>Bellflower - Coarse Rib</p><p>Bellflower - Double Vine</p><p>Bellflower - Fine Rib (Beaded Rim)</p><p>Bellflower - Fine Rib (Plain Rim)</p><p>Bellflower - Fine Rib (Wide Rim)</p><p>Bellflower - Fine Rib Banded</p><p>as well as</p><p>Ribbed Palm</p><p>They credit B&S only with ribbed patterns of Ribbed Grape, Ribbed Ivy and Ribbed Loop.</p><p><br /></p><p>--- Susan</p><p><br /></p><p>Edited: Just a quick note to lurkers, please remember the state of Mississippi as well as most of the SE tonight and tomorrow morning. Tornadoes warnings all across the southern half of the state stretching from LA, AR through MS over to AL and GA. I am in the top NE corner of MS. It all is predicted to move up to us by daybreak. Hopefully the line will run out of steam by the time it reaches us. 4 were killed in Hattiesburg, MS by a tornado last night. I'm am going offline now for the rest of the night.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ladybranch, post: 205421, member: 44"]I'm back. Delighted to see that Quicky and TallCakes have chimed in. Gee, how can we tell if a "Bellflower" is by B&S or McKee. Barlow & Kaiser's [I]The Glass Industry in Sandwich,[/I] Vol. 1, has Sandwich's ribbed patterns of "Ribbed Acorn," "Ribbed Bellflower" AKA Bellflower, "Ribbed Grape," "Ribbed Ivy," "Ribbed Palm" and "Reeded" AKA "Fine RIb." The pic of "Bellflower" is on a goblet. Here is what they say about the "Bellflower" pattern; p. 176, #1213 "Pressed Bellflower (R.L.) Goblet "6 1/4" H. x 3 1/4" Dia. 1855-1875 "A bell-shaped, tulip-like blossom on a continuous undulating vine is called [I]Bellflower[/I] by collectors. McKee and Brothers listed the pattern as "R.L.", thought to be an abbreviation for Ribbed Leaf, but the terminology of that time suggests that "R.L." stood for [I]Reeded and Leaf[/I]. Three elements appear on the vine: the bellflower, a single leaf and a group of three berries resembling a three leaf clover. There are many variations in pattern, form and mold design. Vertical ribs can be spaced closely together, in which case the article called 'fine rib'. A heavier, wider rib is known as 'coarse rib'. On some variants, two undulating vines intertwine, but this 'double vine' cannot be documented as a Sandwich product. All fragments dug at the Boston and Sandwich Glass Company site have only a single vine. Because Bellflower was manufactured during the time that glass factories were converting from flint to litharge and non-flint formulas, quality varies tremendously. Reproductions abound, many produced in clear and color by the Imperial Glass Company for The Metropolitan Museum of Art." I can't tell if your salt has a single or "two undulating vines." According to the above, the "'double vine' cannot be documented as a Sandwich product." Wonder how to the tell the difference between B&S & McKee Bellflower. Like TallCakes said, eapgpatterns credits McKee with the Bellflower patterns of: Bellflower - Coarse Rib Bellflower - Double Vine Bellflower - Fine Rib (Beaded Rim) Bellflower - Fine Rib (Plain Rim) Bellflower - Fine Rib (Wide Rim) Bellflower - Fine Rib Banded as well as Ribbed Palm They credit B&S only with ribbed patterns of Ribbed Grape, Ribbed Ivy and Ribbed Loop. --- Susan Edited: Just a quick note to lurkers, please remember the state of Mississippi as well as most of the SE tonight and tomorrow morning. Tornadoes warnings all across the southern half of the state stretching from LA, AR through MS over to AL and GA. I am in the top NE corner of MS. It all is predicted to move up to us by daybreak. Hopefully the line will run out of steam by the time it reaches us. 4 were killed in Hattiesburg, MS by a tornado last night. I'm am going offline now for the rest of the night.[/QUOTE]
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