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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;IvaPan, post: 8049285, member: 78949&quot;]I have been looking at the Russsian catalogue of silver and gold marks here (a scan of a printed one)</p><p>edit</p><p><a href="https://kleima.ru/katalog-klejm-zolotyx-i-serebryanyx-izdelij-carskoj-rosii-xv-xxvv/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://kleima.ru/katalog-klejm-zolotyx-i-serebryanyx-izdelij-carskoj-rosii-xv-xxvv/" rel="nofollow">Каталог клейм золотых и серебряных изделий Царской России XV-XXвв - Антикварные клейма (kleima.ru)</a></p><p><br /></p><p>and saw that an oval mark starting with the figure of finess (84 or 56, or...) and followed by a head with kokoshnik was used before 1908 and the head was looking left. Then after 1908 the oval mark started with the head looking right and the figure of finess followed it to the right.</p><p><br /></p><p>So if we accept that the image under question (next to 84 figure on the right) is a head with kokoshnik (and not a city mark) it should look left and it should indicate an item before 1908. Do you see it looking left?</p><p><br /></p><p>Also there is another mark, the first one on the left, a round one with a kokoshnik head looking right which would indicate an item after 1908. So before or after 1908? Contradiction in marks for me.</p><p><br /></p><p>Furthermore I wonder why there are two kokoshnik marks on the base of the item,&nbsp; and contradictory ones, combined with a third kokoshnik head on the stem of the plug, for Warsaw assay office&nbsp; after 1908. IMO, too many marks as if someone wanted to be sure that no one will question the authenticity of the item.</p><p><br /></p><p>The above reasoning will change if better pictures show that the image in question is not a kokoshnik head. </p><p><br /></p><p>Also the maker&#039;s mark is interesting - which is the first letter in it? Is it &quot;Ф&quot;? Or is it a Latin letter? Is the second one &quot;R&quot; or &quot;P&quot; with a dot? It will be good to analyse it, too.</p><p><br /></p><p>Ok, then I will erase it.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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