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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;IvaPan, post: 7628918, member: 78949&quot;]Some more on the marks:</p><p><br /></p><p>I don&#039;t see any initials in the cartouche with kokoshnik, there should be И.Л. in Cyrillic if it was deciphered as cetrifier&#039;s Ivan Lebedkin mark. Maybe they are there and I just can&#039;t see them because of the photo quality.</p><p><br /></p><p>It can&#039;t be St. Petersburg city mark in the cartouche with 84 finess mark as Ivan Lebedkin was a certifier from Moscow. Better photos may help decipher the city mark.</p><p><br /></p><p>The kokoshnik head was turned left until 1908 and then turned right from 1908 till 1917. So the dating of this item if authentic is from 1908 till 1917.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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