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<p>[QUOTE="Ladybranch, post: 49189, member: 44"]>On the under side is 2 lines of lettering in a circle.</p><p>Outside ring reads: PAT May 8 _ _ _ _ BLACK_AN</p><p>inside ring reads: R_ _ SS _AR 19 1863 </p><p>I'm thinking R _ _ SS is abbreviated reissue<</p><p><br /></p><p>My, my now isn't the interesting!!! I have a "Skater's Lamp" AKA "Church Going" lamp of my Grandmother's that has the same patent info without the Blackman name.</p><p><br /></p><p>"PAT, MAY 8, 1855 REISSUED MARCH 19, 1867."</p><p><br /></p><p>My lamp is a small lantern about 7" tall with an attached chain and loop ring at the top. It does not have a pet ratchet burner. The cone adjustable air vents of the burner has a patent date of 1867. My grandmother actually used it for ice skating in the evenings and walking to church on Sunday evenings in the 1880s. Just got my lamp out again. Lo and behold, the font with handle looks similar to yours - not identical. This does not include the burner.</p><p><br /></p><p>I have found that your patent info should read:</p><p>"PAT May 8, 1855 BLACKMAN</p><p>REISSUE AR 19 1863"</p><p><br /></p><p>The actual maker or these lamps is very very very confusing. 1st of all there is no patent issued to a Blackman on May 8, 1855 or a reissue to a Blackman. On those dates a patent was issued to and then reissued to a Chamberlain on that date in 1863. The 1867 air cone of mine was a patent issued to a Beebe. The overall maker of my lamp was the Manhattan Brass Co. Some have speculated that Beebe was an agent of the Manhattan Brass Co. No one knows why in the world Blackman's name is printed on many many brass lamps of these types when the patent as issued to a Chamberlain.</p><p><br /></p><p>This may help on ID'ing the maker of yours for it appears the patents were owned or leased to Manhattan Brass Co. in order for them to produce my lamp; therefore, I presume for your lamp also unless they allowed other companies to use the patent like to make your lamp??? I really don't know how the patents worked back then. No doubt the font of yours is from the same patent as mine. Really the only reason the Manhattan Brass Co. has been pointed out as the maker of mine is that there were ads of of my lantern. Thuro's <i>Oil Lamps 3</i>, p. 214, has one of the Manhattan Brass Co. ads of my lantern. On the same page is a pic of my lantern. The following is a finished auction for a lantern just like mine. Do note the shape of the font and the handle. More or less what I have tried to explain above is in the description of the lamp. It is confusing, but maybe you can better understand it all from there rather than my explanation. You need to scroll down the page a bit to see the description and to see all the pics. Be sure to see the pic of the bottom of the lamp for the circles/rings of the patent info. The Manhattan Brass Co. Ad is at the bottom of the page.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/SCARCE-Antique-Brass-Skater-Lantern-Mini-Oil-Lamp-H1-99-/170595639369?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D170595639369%26_rdc%3D1&nma=true&si=%252F7vKWUJ4932E4vXXCHDoX1Wv%252F3I%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/SCARCE-Antique-Brass-Skater-Lantern-Mini-Oil-Lamp-H1-99-/170595639369?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D170595639369%26_rdc%3D1&nma=true&si=%252F7vKWUJ4932E4vXXCHDoX1Wv%252F3I%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/SCARCE-Antique-Brass-Skater-Lantern-Mini-Oil-Lamp-H1-99-/170595639369?ru=http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=170595639369&_rdc=1&nma=true&si=%2F7vKWUJ4932E4vXXCHDoX1Wv%2F3I%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557</a></p><p><br /></p><p>--- Susan[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ladybranch, post: 49189, member: 44"]>On the under side is 2 lines of lettering in a circle. Outside ring reads: PAT May 8 _ _ _ _ BLACK_AN inside ring reads: R_ _ SS _AR 19 1863 I'm thinking R _ _ SS is abbreviated reissue< My, my now isn't the interesting!!! I have a "Skater's Lamp" AKA "Church Going" lamp of my Grandmother's that has the same patent info without the Blackman name. "PAT, MAY 8, 1855 REISSUED MARCH 19, 1867." My lamp is a small lantern about 7" tall with an attached chain and loop ring at the top. It does not have a pet ratchet burner. The cone adjustable air vents of the burner has a patent date of 1867. My grandmother actually used it for ice skating in the evenings and walking to church on Sunday evenings in the 1880s. Just got my lamp out again. Lo and behold, the font with handle looks similar to yours - not identical. This does not include the burner. I have found that your patent info should read: "PAT May 8, 1855 BLACKMAN REISSUE AR 19 1863" The actual maker or these lamps is very very very confusing. 1st of all there is no patent issued to a Blackman on May 8, 1855 or a reissue to a Blackman. On those dates a patent was issued to and then reissued to a Chamberlain on that date in 1863. The 1867 air cone of mine was a patent issued to a Beebe. The overall maker of my lamp was the Manhattan Brass Co. Some have speculated that Beebe was an agent of the Manhattan Brass Co. No one knows why in the world Blackman's name is printed on many many brass lamps of these types when the patent as issued to a Chamberlain. This may help on ID'ing the maker of yours for it appears the patents were owned or leased to Manhattan Brass Co. in order for them to produce my lamp; therefore, I presume for your lamp also unless they allowed other companies to use the patent like to make your lamp??? I really don't know how the patents worked back then. No doubt the font of yours is from the same patent as mine. Really the only reason the Manhattan Brass Co. has been pointed out as the maker of mine is that there were ads of of my lantern. Thuro's [I]Oil Lamps 3[/I], p. 214, has one of the Manhattan Brass Co. ads of my lantern. On the same page is a pic of my lantern. The following is a finished auction for a lantern just like mine. Do note the shape of the font and the handle. More or less what I have tried to explain above is in the description of the lamp. It is confusing, but maybe you can better understand it all from there rather than my explanation. You need to scroll down the page a bit to see the description and to see all the pics. Be sure to see the pic of the bottom of the lamp for the circles/rings of the patent info. The Manhattan Brass Co. Ad is at the bottom of the page. [URL='http://www.ebay.com/itm/SCARCE-Antique-Brass-Skater-Lantern-Mini-Oil-Lamp-H1-99-/170595639369?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D170595639369%26_rdc%3D1&nma=true&si=%252F7vKWUJ4932E4vXXCHDoX1Wv%252F3I%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557']http://www.ebay.com/itm/SCARCE-Antique-Brass-Skater-Lantern-Mini-Oil-Lamp-H1-99-/170595639369?ru=http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=170595639369&_rdc=1&nma=true&si=%2F7vKWUJ4932E4vXXCHDoX1Wv%2F3I%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557[/URL] --- Susan[/QUOTE]
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