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<p>[QUOTE="Ladybranch, post: 49128, member: 44"]>I was thinking alcohol lamp rather than kerosene (paraffin to you Brits), and more of a work flame than a lamp per se.<</p><p><br /></p><p>At the time I wrote my reply above, I was in a rush and didn't have time to go into details on possible fuel. I have seen them referred to as kerosene lamps and to "benzo lamps in the U.K. and they burned benzoline." Other places I have read they could burn kerosene or fluid. From what I quoted above about Neville patent lamp "drawings of kerosene lamps" is from Thuro's OL, I, p. 60. She has a pic of 2 of Neville lamps. Am including a scan of them at the end of this reply. The reference to benzoline was a posting on the International Lamp Guild website in Oct. 2001. As I had just come in possession of a later model of these lamps, called a Planters hand lamp, I was interested in the replies. I saved a copy of one of the replies. This was posted by an English member of that website:</p><p><br /></p><p>"I don't know what you call these lamps elsewhere, but they are known as benzo lamps in the U.K. and they burned benzoline. They were stuffed with wool to prevent explosion as the fuel vaporized very readily, and of course had a cap and chain to prevent evaporation off the wick. They were sold up to the 1930's.The Liverpool Lamp & Hardware Catalogue 1904 and the Sherwoods Catalogue 1930's (both reproduced) illustrate quite a few models which resemble this one very closely. I believe paraffin is the nearest practical replacement fuel today as everything else is unsafe or hazardous to health (or both)."</p><p><br /></p><p>The lamp of that query was the later model Planter's Hand Lamp that were produced 40 years later than the Neville lamps. Several companies made the later model Planter's like P & A and E. Miller and Company to name a couple. The overall design, shape, of the OP's lamp resembles the Neville lamps. That is why I specifically asked for the complete patent date. Thuro says Neville's lamps were patented in Nov. 1865 and May 1866. The OP says hers is 1868. If by any chance the month on hers is Nov or May then there is a good chance the year is 1865 or 1866 rather than 1868.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is a query about this type of lamp on the Lamp Guild website:</p><p><a href="http://lampguild.org/QandApage/archives/Q0006494.php" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://lampguild.org/QandApage/archives/Q0006494.php" rel="nofollow">http://lampguild.org/QandApage/archives/Q0006494.php</a></p><p><br /></p><p>If yours does not have a 1865 or 1866 patent date then it is probably not a Neville. It also doesn't have the round attached handle and the top of the burner doesn't appear as flat as a Neville. Also yours has the cap. All the Neville's I've seen didn't have a cap and looked like they never had one. That surprises me, for have never seen a fluid lamp that didn't have a cap at one time to keep the fluid from evaporating. Nowww a kerosene lamp doesn't need a cap. I suspect yours is a later model by whom, I don't know.</p><p><br /></p><p>--- Susan</p><p><br /></p><p>The 2 on the left are shaped like yours. The one on the right is a later model, planters' hand lamp, similar to what I have.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]12351[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ladybranch, post: 49128, member: 44"]>I was thinking alcohol lamp rather than kerosene (paraffin to you Brits), and more of a work flame than a lamp per se.< At the time I wrote my reply above, I was in a rush and didn't have time to go into details on possible fuel. I have seen them referred to as kerosene lamps and to "benzo lamps in the U.K. and they burned benzoline." Other places I have read they could burn kerosene or fluid. From what I quoted above about Neville patent lamp "drawings of kerosene lamps" is from Thuro's OL, I, p. 60. She has a pic of 2 of Neville lamps. Am including a scan of them at the end of this reply. The reference to benzoline was a posting on the International Lamp Guild website in Oct. 2001. As I had just come in possession of a later model of these lamps, called a Planters hand lamp, I was interested in the replies. I saved a copy of one of the replies. This was posted by an English member of that website: "I don't know what you call these lamps elsewhere, but they are known as benzo lamps in the U.K. and they burned benzoline. They were stuffed with wool to prevent explosion as the fuel vaporized very readily, and of course had a cap and chain to prevent evaporation off the wick. They were sold up to the 1930's.The Liverpool Lamp & Hardware Catalogue 1904 and the Sherwoods Catalogue 1930's (both reproduced) illustrate quite a few models which resemble this one very closely. I believe paraffin is the nearest practical replacement fuel today as everything else is unsafe or hazardous to health (or both)." The lamp of that query was the later model Planter's Hand Lamp that were produced 40 years later than the Neville lamps. Several companies made the later model Planter's like P & A and E. Miller and Company to name a couple. The overall design, shape, of the OP's lamp resembles the Neville lamps. That is why I specifically asked for the complete patent date. Thuro says Neville's lamps were patented in Nov. 1865 and May 1866. The OP says hers is 1868. If by any chance the month on hers is Nov or May then there is a good chance the year is 1865 or 1866 rather than 1868. Here is a query about this type of lamp on the Lamp Guild website: [URL]http://lampguild.org/QandApage/archives/Q0006494.php[/URL] If yours does not have a 1865 or 1866 patent date then it is probably not a Neville. It also doesn't have the round attached handle and the top of the burner doesn't appear as flat as a Neville. Also yours has the cap. All the Neville's I've seen didn't have a cap and looked like they never had one. That surprises me, for have never seen a fluid lamp that didn't have a cap at one time to keep the fluid from evaporating. Nowww a kerosene lamp doesn't need a cap. I suspect yours is a later model by whom, I don't know. --- Susan The 2 on the left are shaped like yours. The one on the right is a later model, planters' hand lamp, similar to what I have. [ATTACH=full]12351[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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