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<p>[QUOTE="Ex Libris, post: 9488218, member: 14916"]As a collector of old books and IT professional I am interested in computer tools that can help me with my research into books. This tool shows some promise!</p><p><br /></p><p>Recently Bing Chat added a feature to upload a picture as input for your AI chat. I was wondering how it performs with title pages of antique books. Can it be of any use when you want to research a specific book?</p><p><br /></p><p>Link: <a href="https://www.bing.com/search?q=Bing+AI&showconv=1&FORM=hpcodx&ntref=1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.bing.com/search?q=Bing+AI&showconv=1&FORM=hpcodx&ntref=1" rel="nofollow">Bing AI</a></p><p><br /></p><p>This is how you upload a picture.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]445376[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>For every prompt I used the following phrase: <b>What can you tell me about this title page?</b></p><p><br /></p><p>The first book I tried was an older book: A Missale Romanum of 1572</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]445369[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>This was the answer I get:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]445370[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>As far as my knowledge goes the AI is almost 100% correct in this case. Even the woodcut was analyzed correctly. The only part I do not agree is, that it isn't one of the earliest printed Roman Missals and the high value (but those comments are subjective).</p><p><br /></p><p>Let's make it a bit harder. This time I choose a book I posted here on this forum before: <a href="https://www.antiquers.com/threads/adults-only-the-naked-book.51402/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.antiquers.com/threads/adults-only-the-naked-book.51402/">Adults only: The naked book | Antiques Board (antiquers.com)</a></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]445371[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Here we see some hallucination (made up stuff) of the AI-engine. The title ,author and place are correct, but the date (1539), publisher (Johann Herwagen) and the illustration are not correct. It gives me a good starting point to start my research though.</p><p><br /></p><p>Let's make it even harder for the engine to see what happens:</p><p><br /></p><p>Confessionale Sive Libellus by Godschalck Roosenmondt of Eindhoven (Antwerp - 1519)</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]445372[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]445373[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>This is clearly too much for this AI engine. Only one word of the title is correct, the rest is completely nonsense.</p><p><br /></p><p>Ok, now I know what I can not do. Let's try some books that are posted here on this forum:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.antiquers.com/threads/oscar-wilde-1903-german-book.79226/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.antiquers.com/threads/oscar-wilde-1903-german-book.79226/">Oscar Wilde 1903 German book | Antiques Board (antiquers.com)</a></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]445374[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>This seems quite correct to me! I am impressed!</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.antiquers.com/threads/1912-dutch-youth-history-illustrated-with-inserted-cards.76516/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.antiquers.com/threads/1912-dutch-youth-history-illustrated-with-inserted-cards.76516/">1912 Dutch Youth History, Illustrated with Inserted Cards | Antiques Board (antiquers.com)</a></p><p>[ATTACH=full]445375[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>This seems fairly correct, only the translation of the title into English is not correct. The book is not about natural history but about history and the cover was not correct described (an orange tulip???).</p><p><br /></p><p>My conclusion:</p><p><br /></p><p>This tool can be very helpful to start your research into a book that is unknown to you. You cannot trust the information it gives though, because it will hallucinate (make up facts) sometimes. As the website of the chat is stating: "<i>Let’s learn together. Bing is powered by AI that can understand and generate text and images, so surprises and mistakes are possible. Make sure to check the facts, and share feedback so we can learn and improve!</i>", do not trust the answers, but it can give very valuable information for your own research! The AI-engine rates all books as early, rare and valuable, take that as a grain of salt.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ex Libris, post: 9488218, member: 14916"]As a collector of old books and IT professional I am interested in computer tools that can help me with my research into books. This tool shows some promise! Recently Bing Chat added a feature to upload a picture as input for your AI chat. I was wondering how it performs with title pages of antique books. Can it be of any use when you want to research a specific book? Link: [URL='https://www.bing.com/search?q=Bing+AI&showconv=1&FORM=hpcodx&ntref=1']Bing AI[/URL] This is how you upload a picture. [ATTACH=full]445376[/ATTACH] For every prompt I used the following phrase: [B]What can you tell me about this title page?[/B] The first book I tried was an older book: A Missale Romanum of 1572 [ATTACH=full]445369[/ATTACH] This was the answer I get: [ATTACH=full]445370[/ATTACH] As far as my knowledge goes the AI is almost 100% correct in this case. Even the woodcut was analyzed correctly. The only part I do not agree is, that it isn't one of the earliest printed Roman Missals and the high value (but those comments are subjective). Let's make it a bit harder. This time I choose a book I posted here on this forum before: [URL='https://www.antiquers.com/threads/adults-only-the-naked-book.51402/']Adults only: The naked book | Antiques Board (antiquers.com)[/URL] [ATTACH=full]445371[/ATTACH] Here we see some hallucination (made up stuff) of the AI-engine. The title ,author and place are correct, but the date (1539), publisher (Johann Herwagen) and the illustration are not correct. It gives me a good starting point to start my research though. Let's make it even harder for the engine to see what happens: Confessionale Sive Libellus by Godschalck Roosenmondt of Eindhoven (Antwerp - 1519) [ATTACH=full]445372[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]445373[/ATTACH] This is clearly too much for this AI engine. Only one word of the title is correct, the rest is completely nonsense. Ok, now I know what I can not do. Let's try some books that are posted here on this forum: [URL='https://www.antiquers.com/threads/oscar-wilde-1903-german-book.79226/']Oscar Wilde 1903 German book | Antiques Board (antiquers.com)[/URL] [ATTACH=full]445374[/ATTACH] This seems quite correct to me! I am impressed! [URL='https://www.antiquers.com/threads/1912-dutch-youth-history-illustrated-with-inserted-cards.76516/']1912 Dutch Youth History, Illustrated with Inserted Cards | Antiques Board (antiquers.com)[/URL] [ATTACH=full]445375[/ATTACH] This seems fairly correct, only the translation of the title into English is not correct. The book is not about natural history but about history and the cover was not correct described (an orange tulip???). My conclusion: This tool can be very helpful to start your research into a book that is unknown to you. You cannot trust the information it gives though, because it will hallucinate (make up facts) sometimes. As the website of the chat is stating: "[I]Let’s learn together. Bing is powered by AI that can understand and generate text and images, so surprises and mistakes are possible. Make sure to check the facts, and share feedback so we can learn and improve![/I]", do not trust the answers, but it can give very valuable information for your own research! The AI-engine rates all books as early, rare and valuable, take that as a grain of salt.[/QUOTE]
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