Log in or Sign up
Antiques Board
Home
Forums
>
Antique Forums
>
Antique Discussion
>
Fake? German Schmidt-Felling Bronze
>
Reply to Thread
Message:
<p>[QUOTE="Barry Crouch, post: 4381851, member: 13065"]<font face="Arial"><font size="3"><b>Hello,</b></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><b>I took a chance on a statue on eBay. </b></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><b>I am completely new to bronze statues, so this is the first I have ever purchased.</b></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><b>The lister did not know much about it but did appear to have sold a number of antiques over time--he had over 1200 stars, so he isn't a startup.</b></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><b>The item is now on its way to me and I have found more information on it.</b></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><b>I am concerned it may be a fake or a replica.</b></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><b>The title of the piece is "BIS FRÜH UM FÜNFE". It is a piece by JULIUS PAUL SCHMIDT-FELLING.</b></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><b>From searching, I have found that it is likely a statue of a famous German composer from Berlin--Paul Lincke.</b></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><b>I have found two almost identical pieces on two separate auction sites--both of these pieces varied from one another by the way the cane is positioned. The piece I have coming has no cane (and it appears it was never part of the piece--it doesn't appear to have broken off).</b></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><b>The reasons I am concerned that it may be a fake or a replica are the following:</b></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><br /></font></font></p><blockquote><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><b>The lettering at the base is not nearly as readable (clear) as the two pieces I found at the auction sites. The lettering is weak. As well, the pieces I found online all have very smooth areas around the letting whereas the one I have on the way almost looks like it has grind marks around it.</b></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><b>Neither of the two auction pieces appears to have been painted; this one not only has a poorly done paint job on the necktie and corsage, but the whole piece looks painted (I haven't seen it in person yet).</b></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><b>As stated above, the two auction pieces have a cane present--this one does not.</b></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><b>The metal fastener at the bottom of the marble looks relatively pristine and "new" in my unexpert opinion; the other pieces I found online have rusted metal here and look "less modern."</b></font></font></p></blockquote><p><font face="Arial"><br /></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><b>Below are the pictures.</b></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><b>Thanks in advance for any and all input!</b></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><b>Barry</b></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><b>This is the one that is now mine:</b></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3">[ATTACH=full]367690[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]367691[/ATTACH] </font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><b>[ATTACH=full]367692[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]367693[/ATTACH] </b></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><b>[ATTACH=full]367694[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]367695[/ATTACH] </b></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><b>Here are the two pieces I found on Auction sites (please note: each has a cane and the cane is held differently in each):</b></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><b>[ATTACH=full]367696[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]367697[/ATTACH] </b></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><b>Here are links to each of the auction listings:</b></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><b><a href="https://www.lot-tissimo.com/de-de/auction-catalogues/auktionshauskarrenbauer/catalogue-id-auktio29-10003/lot-aad82f9d-b5b5-41fe-80ff-aa1000cd4658" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.lot-tissimo.com/de-de/auction-catalogues/auktionshauskarrenbauer/catalogue-id-auktio29-10003/lot-aad82f9d-b5b5-41fe-80ff-aa1000cd4658" rel="nofollow">https://www.lot-tissimo.com/de-de/auction-catalogues/auktionshauskarrenbauer/catalogue-id-auktio29-10003/lot-aad82f9d-b5b5-41fe-80ff-aa1000cd4658</a></b></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><b><a href="https://www.lotsearch.de/lot/berliner-bildhauer-um-1900-herr-mit-umgelegtem-mantel-und-zylinder-35461219?perPage=80&page=3&orderBy=lot-startPrice&order=DESC" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.lotsearch.de/lot/berliner-bildhauer-um-1900-herr-mit-umgelegtem-mantel-und-zylinder-35461219?perPage=80&page=3&orderBy=lot-startPrice&order=DESC" rel="nofollow">https://www.lotsearch.de/lot/berliner-bildhauer-um-1900-herr-mit-umgelegtem-mantel-und-zylinder-35461219?perPage=80&page=3&orderBy=lot-startPrice&order=DESC</a></b></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><br /></font></font></p><p><font face="Arial"><font size="3"><b>[ATTACH=full]367656[/ATTACH]</b></font></font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Barry Crouch, post: 4381851, member: 13065"][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3][B]Hello,[/B] [B]I took a chance on a statue on eBay. [/B] [B]I am completely new to bronze statues, so this is the first I have ever purchased.[/B] [B]The lister did not know much about it but did appear to have sold a number of antiques over time--he had over 1200 stars, so he isn't a startup.[/B] [B][/B] [B]The item is now on its way to me and I have found more information on it.[/B] [B][/B] [B]I am concerned it may be a fake or a replica.[/B] [B][/B] [B]The title of the piece is "BIS FRÜH UM FÜNFE". It is a piece by JULIUS PAUL SCHMIDT-FELLING.[/B] [B]From searching, I have found that it is likely a statue of a famous German composer from Berlin--Paul Lincke.[/B] [B]I have found two almost identical pieces on two separate auction sites--both of these pieces varied from one another by the way the cane is positioned. The piece I have coming has no cane (and it appears it was never part of the piece--it doesn't appear to have broken off).[/B] [B]The reasons I am concerned that it may be a fake or a replica are the following:[/B] [/SIZE][/FONT] [INDENT][FONT=Arial][SIZE=3][B]The lettering at the base is not nearly as readable (clear) as the two pieces I found at the auction sites. The lettering is weak. As well, the pieces I found online all have very smooth areas around the letting whereas the one I have on the way almost looks like it has grind marks around it.[/B] [B]Neither of the two auction pieces appears to have been painted; this one not only has a poorly done paint job on the necktie and corsage, but the whole piece looks painted (I haven't seen it in person yet).[/B] [B]As stated above, the two auction pieces have a cane present--this one does not.[/B] [B]The metal fastener at the bottom of the marble looks relatively pristine and "new" in my unexpert opinion; the other pieces I found online have rusted metal here and look "less modern."[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/INDENT] [FONT=Arial][B][/B] [SIZE=3][B]Below are the pictures.[/B] [B][/B] [B]Thanks in advance for any and all input![/B] [B][/B] [B]Barry[/B] [B][/B] [B]This is the one that is now mine:[/B] [ATTACH=full]367690[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]367691[/ATTACH] [B][ATTACH=full]367692[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]367693[/ATTACH] [/B] [B][ATTACH=full]367694[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]367695[/ATTACH] [/B] [B][/B] [B]Here are the two pieces I found on Auction sites (please note: each has a cane and the cane is held differently in each):[/B] [B][/B] [B][/B] [B][/B] [B][ATTACH=full]367696[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]367697[/ATTACH] [/B] [B]Here are links to each of the auction listings:[/B] [B][URL]https://www.lot-tissimo.com/de-de/auction-catalogues/auktionshauskarrenbauer/catalogue-id-auktio29-10003/lot-aad82f9d-b5b5-41fe-80ff-aa1000cd4658[/URL][/B] [B][URL]https://www.lotsearch.de/lot/berliner-bildhauer-um-1900-herr-mit-umgelegtem-mantel-und-zylinder-35461219?perPage=80&page=3&orderBy=lot-startPrice&order=DESC[/URL][/B] [B][ATTACH=full]367656[/ATTACH][/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/QUOTE]
Your name or email address:
Do you already have an account?
No, create an account now.
Yes, my password is:
Forgot your password?
Stay logged in
Antiques Board
Home
Forums
>
Antique Forums
>
Antique Discussion
>
Fake? German Schmidt-Felling Bronze
>
Home
Home
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Activity
Recent Posts
Forums
Forums
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Posts
Gallery
Gallery
Quick Links
Search Media
New Media
Members
Members
Quick Links
Notable Members
Registered Members
Current Visitors
Recent Activity
New Profile Posts
Menu
Search
Search titles only
Posted by Member:
Separate names with a comma.
Newer Than:
Search this thread only
Search this forum only
Display results as threads
Useful Searches
Recent Posts
More...