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<p>[QUOTE="bosko69, post: 4509187, member: 16283"]Bronwen- Found this thread on my 'First Jewelry Post'. Here's all I can figure re Your paste copy of the gem-</p><p><br /></p><p>1.The Face appears to be more refined in the paste version (could be a trick of the light because amethyst is translucent/paste not so much,& we’re dealing w/ photos-OR it could be an Georgian/Elizabethan/Regency interpretation of how a Greek/Roman face ‘should’ look ).</p><p><br /></p><p> 2.No lettering to the left of the harp/lyre (as you said-this could have been added later).</p><p><br /></p><p>3.When do you deduce this paste copy would have been made ? If a Jeweler had access to a ‘Curiosity’ like this, they could very likely have made a Plaster Impression . Antiquities were much more ‘available’ 100-200 years ago. Look at Lord Elgins purchase (pillaging) of The Parthenon friezes.</p><p><br /></p><p> A craftsmen wouldn’t have to go thru the Board of Directors of The British Museum or get Governmental clearance to borrow a small antiquity for a few days.</p><p><br /></p><p>A-Artist makes a cast (hopefully returns gem ).</p><p><br /></p><p>B-Makes several trial impressions (cast sketches so to speak).</p><p><br /></p><p>C-Said Artiste has to make a living, and ‘tweaks’ or refines said piece to suit contemporary tastes (makes it look more like Alexander or Byron)-remember, he’s also a ‘commercial’ artist who needs to eat).</p><p><br /></p><p>D. Your Piece could be a copy done from a contemporary engraving or an original cast of the actual ancient piece, w/ perhaps some (marketable) enhancements by the creator of the paste piece. One Artist emulating another Artist-an interpretation.</p><p><br /></p><p> Of course it would be expensive, but if one could manage a trip to the Bibliotheque Nationale-it would be easier, but perhaps not conclusive…. You’ve seen the Nova Specials where they spend 6 mos. or a year analyzing a Tang Vase or a Viking Sword-absurdly exhaustive, plus what private person could afford the analysis ?</p><p><br /></p><p> Some kind of laser measurement and comparison of the 2 pieces could be possible-a kind of scientific forensic archaeology, analyzed by a computer?</p><p> Good fortune on your quest-these journeys drive me nuts and yet are a part of what makes life worth living ![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="bosko69, post: 4509187, member: 16283"]Bronwen- Found this thread on my 'First Jewelry Post'. Here's all I can figure re Your paste copy of the gem- 1.The Face appears to be more refined in the paste version (could be a trick of the light because amethyst is translucent/paste not so much,& we’re dealing w/ photos-OR it could be an Georgian/Elizabethan/Regency interpretation of how a Greek/Roman face ‘should’ look ). 2.No lettering to the left of the harp/lyre (as you said-this could have been added later). 3.When do you deduce this paste copy would have been made ? If a Jeweler had access to a ‘Curiosity’ like this, they could very likely have made a Plaster Impression . Antiquities were much more ‘available’ 100-200 years ago. Look at Lord Elgins purchase (pillaging) of The Parthenon friezes. A craftsmen wouldn’t have to go thru the Board of Directors of The British Museum or get Governmental clearance to borrow a small antiquity for a few days. A-Artist makes a cast (hopefully returns gem ). B-Makes several trial impressions (cast sketches so to speak). C-Said Artiste has to make a living, and ‘tweaks’ or refines said piece to suit contemporary tastes (makes it look more like Alexander or Byron)-remember, he’s also a ‘commercial’ artist who needs to eat). D. Your Piece could be a copy done from a contemporary engraving or an original cast of the actual ancient piece, w/ perhaps some (marketable) enhancements by the creator of the paste piece. One Artist emulating another Artist-an interpretation. Of course it would be expensive, but if one could manage a trip to the Bibliotheque Nationale-it would be easier, but perhaps not conclusive…. You’ve seen the Nova Specials where they spend 6 mos. or a year analyzing a Tang Vase or a Viking Sword-absurdly exhaustive, plus what private person could afford the analysis ? Some kind of laser measurement and comparison of the 2 pieces could be possible-a kind of scientific forensic archaeology, analyzed by a computer? Good fortune on your quest-these journeys drive me nuts and yet are a part of what makes life worth living ![/QUOTE]
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