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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;RachelW, post: 9427209, member: 15376&quot;]<p style="text-align: center">Dancing Cranes brooch</p> <p style="text-align: center"><br /></p> <p style="text-align: center">7.5cm long, no marks. I originally purchased this without much hope of a score, but was curious to learn if the clasp had been replaced or not. Overall, the color combination of the navy and gold said 70s or 80s, perhaps for the older generation (ie, my grandma who was in her 40s at the time). HOWEVER: research has led me to identical brooches from the art nouveau period, but that only brings up a lot more questions. I can&#039;t find any brooch with the stone, but if you look at the back of mine you can see the birds&#039; beaks underneath, almost like it was added on later. But the color of the metal is the same, so was this a custom order in the art nouveau period or was this added on later? Does this mean its a reproduction/later revival piece? I found a yellow metal one on worth point that has the same length and placement of the pin, but with a trombone clasp. Other examples have my rollover clasp, but have much longer pins and different placement. Does this mean I was correct about the clasp having been replaced? The amount of grey/damage/gunk around both ends suggests this, but again the metal color is the same and has only worn down to silver over time. All examples online are dated to the Art Nouveau period. There&#039;s no one maker either, some are gold, some are metal, some are silver rather than yellow.</p> <p style="text-align: center"><br /></p> <p style="text-align: center">I see two scenarios here:</p> <p style="text-align: center">This is a genuine AN piece that predates the clasp, which is a replacement. The stone may have been original or added at the same time as the clasp.</p> <p style="text-align: center"><br /></p> <p style="text-align: center">This is a reproduction piece, either in the 30s (mainstream use of the rollover clasp and a tendency toward the natural world in jewelry in the last half of the decade), or sometime much later and my initial thoughts of 70s or 80s is correct.</p> <p style="text-align: center"><br /></p> <p style="text-align: center">Links to a couple examples I found:</p> <p style="text-align: center"><a href="https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/antique-art-nouveau-crane-heron-1862435603" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/antique-art-nouveau-crane-heron-1862435603" rel="nofollow"><u>https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/antique-art-nouveau-crane-heron-1862435603</u></a></p> <p style="text-align: center"><a href="https://www.etsy.com/fr/listing/487610507/broche-de-grue-art-nouveau" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.etsy.com/fr/listing/487610507/broche-de-grue-art-nouveau" rel="nofollow"><u>https://www.etsy.com/fr/listing/487610507/broche-de-grue-art-nouveau</u></a></p> <p style="text-align: center">[ATTACH=full]434482[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]434483[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]434484[/ATTACH]</p> <p style="text-align: center"><br /></p> <p style="text-align: center"><br /></p> <p style="text-align: center">Faux pearl pin with loop safety pin clasp</p> <p style="text-align: center">4cm long. I&#039;ve found a couple on ebay listed as vaguely &#039;vintage&#039;. The pearls are looking worse for wear and are not quality. Apparently you can get modern antiqued ones so I&#039;m not sure this has any age to it at all. I can find no resources on original pieces so I&#039;m at a loss. I bought it to learn about the clasp so wasn&#039;t all that disappointed!</p> <p style="text-align: center">[ATTACH=full]434485[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]434486[/ATTACH]</p> <p style="text-align: center"><br /></p> <p style="text-align: center">Garnet rhinestone and faux seed pearl brooch</p> <p style="text-align: center">A specific date has eluded me on this one. I think its Victorian revival but I don&#039;t know if its 30s or 70/80s. I am wondering if it is (or was) gold plated, the gold that&#039;s not worn away has that shade that is not on my other gold tone pieces.. Its very nicely done and in great condition minus the wear, except theres that chunk of metal on the right top edge. The clasp is a rollover, but looks more like a prototype or early version of what we&#039;re used to seeing today, so this points to a 1925-40 revival.</p> <p style="text-align: center">[ATTACH=full]434487[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]434489[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]434490[/ATTACH]</p> <p style="text-align: center"><br /></p> <p style="text-align: center">I&#039;m actually quite chuffed with these, paid less than 10 euros for all of them. The two ABs were at different stalls. The AB in particular were a beast to photograph so the colors having quite come out as vibrant as they are. Thanks very much for looking, I can send over more photos if desired, and I hope you like them!</p> <p style="text-align: center"><br /></p> <p style="text-align: center">So how did I do? <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie66" alt=":nailbiting:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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