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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;mirana, post: 9738766, member: 79705&quot;]More than fair. 18 months and 5k fine (max possible) is nothing for the extreme negligence she displayed.</p><p><br /></p><p>I think the AD, who got a deal from the DA for no charges, should have been charged as well. An AD is the top, and final, safety person on set and he did NOT do the job he was supposed to do.</p><p><br /></p><p>I do not think Alec should be charged as an actor handling the gun. He did absolutely nothing wrong there. They COULD charge him for negligence as a producer IF they can show that safety concerns were brought to him and were part of his producing job. However, I&#039;m willing to bet his producer credit is for investment money/creative decisions and not the type that runs the day-to-day.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>There should never, ever, EVER be live ammo on set or near it. I&#039;ve seen armorers tear ass into people who&#039;ve brought personal weapons anywhere near a production (it happens in states where personal carry is big <img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/rolleyes.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" />) and threaten to shut the show down immediately until things are removed. Legit armorers have major liability insurance.</p><p><br /></p><p>I believe it was suggested the crew was doing target practice? I think that was in relation to making props. If you have a scene with items that have bullet holes in them (ie a shoot out, target practice), then you have to make those. The proper way to do this is to buy/rent them, fabricate them off set with separate gear that never comes to set, or hand them to sfx who do the same. It looks like here they decided to cut corners and fabricate on-set. But that&#039;s my assumption from various things I&#039;ve heard. It could also just be as stupid as it sounds.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Most people don&#039;t know what gun procedure is on sets and do not realize we&#039;ve had a very tight, specific protocol and prop procurement method since before Brandon Lee, with more things added after.</p><p><br /></p><p>Firstly, every single gun goes through this process. Even rubber. Even toy. Even guns with solid barrels and no ability to fire. Because if it looks like a gun, it is treated as such.</p><p><br /></p><p>Armorers have certifications, huge liability insurance, and even ATF oversight if they have certain military grade weapons. Every armorer I know is former military, cop, or otherwise expert. The rust armorer was 24, a daughter of a known armorer, and had only done one gig before this in which a gun was fired right next to the actor&#039;s head AND she did an interview saying she didn&#039;t think she was ready for the job.</p><p><br /></p><p>Guns and ammo are kept locked up or with an armorer/prop person at all times.</p><p><br /></p><p>When a weapon is needed, that has the ability to fire/flash, the armorer must handle it (non-firing can be brought by a regular prop person). They do all checks necessary that the weapon is in clean, good condition, with no obstructions. They check the dummy rounds individually. They count the dummy ammo brought to set, blanks fired, and they count shells retrieved to make sure everything is accounted for. A little different for black powder, which usually involves stunt people. They also instruct the actor on how to use the weapon prior to filming.</p><p><br /></p><p>They bring the gun to set, directly to the AD, and the armorer/prop person or AD announces a gun&#039;s arrival. The AD checks the weapon to make sure it is cleared of obstructions, that they understand what the gun is, how it operates, etc. They announce it is cold (no blanks) or hot (blanks) to the crew and invite ANYONE present to look at the gun. I literally mean anyone. Camera op, PA, everybody. They then present the weapon to the actor for the actor to see it is clear.</p><p><br /></p><p>In Rust, the AD saw the guns unattended (??!) on the prop cart, grabbed one, called it &quot;cold&quot; and handed it to Alec. That is something that should never happen. The AD should never grab a prop gun without the armorer.</p><p><br /></p><p>The actor does not HAVE to do a check. It is optional. Same as everyone else on crew. It is NOT OPTIONAL for the AD. AD is in charge of final safety, full stop. I see the DA or others report Alec should have checked but IT IS NOT HIS JOB. It is a courtesy check to make him comfortable with the weapon. Safety is not his job in this context. Actors should trust the AD and armorer to do their jobs.</p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;ve also seen people say he shouldn&#039;t have pointed the gun at anyone or pulled the trigger. Of course you should not point a gun at anyone when it is not called for, but absolutely actors DO point weapons at people and pull triggers while filming or rehearsing! Otherwise it wouldn&#039;t look right! As an actor I had to point a real gun 2 inches from an actor&#039;s face. That&#039;s normal, because the gun should be cleared. In Alec&#039;s case, he was instructed to do a pov shot, pointing his gun &quot;down the barrel&quot; of the camera lens. Directly at camera. It was requested of him and the gun was necessary to make sure the shot looked right at that range.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Haha I have a whole bag of horror stuff off my last movie. I&#039;m not looking to sell anything until I start running out of room lol. After all, I&#039;m a fan of props myself... <img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wink.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=";)" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Technically not a real round, but an improperly made dummy from the sfx team that still had a primer and lodged the bullet in the barrel. The team didn&#039;t clear the barrel, so the subsequent blank round provided the force to dislodge the dummy&#039;s stuck bullet. That is why we always clear the barrel in between. We also order blanks and dummies from a company that specializes in their manufacture. We still check each one too.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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