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<p>[QUOTE="Woutinc, post: 4665290, member: 78422"]Ad [USER=2844]@Any Jewelry[/USER]</p><p>For start, i am NOT discussing with you!! I'm just trying to add your great information for information for anyone reading this out of interest.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Instead what i thought it indeed is twisted, not loose rings. Just looked with a loupe.</p><p>But still it is fillegrain, handmade from parts, aka original. Nowadays zeeuwse knopen often are molded in one part.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks for the completion.</p><p>Although the oldest known fibulea already were decorative from the beginning and not later (fibulea are among my expertises).</p><p><br /></p><p>Yet, as you yourself show with your examples (and mine), centuries ago already there were more utilizations in klederdracht then only button (and perhaps even from the beginning). <span style="color: #8000ff"><span style="color: #000000">And for that </span>the nowadays definition for zeeuwse knoop is for the design, the knot</span>. And not 'button'.</p><p>Where the actual turning point was in history, later or beginning, i can't tell.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Woutinc, post: 4665290, member: 78422"]Ad [USER=2844]@Any Jewelry[/USER] For start, i am NOT discussing with you!! I'm just trying to add your great information for information for anyone reading this out of interest. Instead what i thought it indeed is twisted, not loose rings. Just looked with a loupe. But still it is fillegrain, handmade from parts, aka original. Nowadays zeeuwse knopen often are molded in one part. Thanks for the completion. Although the oldest known fibulea already were decorative from the beginning and not later (fibulea are among my expertises). Yet, as you yourself show with your examples (and mine), centuries ago already there were more utilizations in klederdracht then only button (and perhaps even from the beginning). [COLOR=#8000ff][COLOR=#000000]And for that [/COLOR]the nowadays definition for zeeuwse knoop is for the design, the knot[/COLOR]. And not 'button'. Where the actual turning point was in history, later or beginning, i can't tell.[/QUOTE]
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