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<p>[QUOTE="mr2real, post: 58880, member: 277"]I sold this item recently and it arrived at it's destination in Singapore on the 20th. It was sold through eBay's global shipping program (I just read this could highly impact import fees for the buyer). The buyer sent this message on the 21st </p><p><br /></p><p>"Hi</p><p><br /></p><p>Thank you so much for the bowl. You have done a great job in packing it securely and I have received it safely. </p><p><br /></p><p>One issue with this bowl is, this bowl was broken one chunk on the mouth rim and it was repaired. Please refer to pictures.</p><p><br /></p><p>I do sincerely believe that you may have miss this out unintentionally and you were totally unaware of it. </p><p><br /></p><p>You can see from the picture clearly the unevenness of the connecting surface and the break line accompany the two chips edge on the rim. The two chipped on the two ends are badly patched up and you can see it is rough. It was definitely repaired. </p><p><br /></p><p>Can we work out a partial refund and I will accept this as it is. As this a major fault and it has a big issue with its' value, shall we settle at 40% off ? After which we can close the case and leave each other with good feedback. </p><p><br /></p><p>Hope to hear from you soon</p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks </p><p><br /></p><p>Truthfully </p><p><br /></p><p>William"</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>A few things stuck out as odd in the initial message. </p><p>Firstly, the eBay and Paypal transaction list the buyers name as Tan Kok Hooi and this message was written by William.</p><p>Secondly, he refers to "a case" which he has not opened.</p><p>Thirdly, He closed the message with Truthfully (never seen that before).</p><p><br /></p><p>Here are the five photos he sent me.</p><p>[ATTACH]15121[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]15122[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]15123[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]15124[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]15125[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>I responded that I respectfully disagree with his assessment. I told him that I do not negotiate partial refunds, but I will honor my return policy which is 14 days.</p><p><br /></p><p>He responds </p><p><br /></p><p>" I do not return what I have purchased </p><p><br /></p><p>I will proceed to open a case then"</p><p><br /></p><p>He then responded again about two hours later</p><p><br /></p><p>"Like I said, you may have missed this out unintentionally as this is only be inspected on a closer look</p><p><br /></p><p>This piece info of being repaired is not represented in your photo or description and it is totally unfair for buyer who bid aggressively thinking that this is a perfect piece </p><p><br /></p><p>I still hope we can solve this amicably"</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>He has yet to open a case despite his threats (as perceived by me). I've bought and sold antiques, primarily PGP, for 10 years. I personally studied this piece for several weeks prior to listing it. It has a octagonal shape which they attempted to flair outward toward the lip. There were a few spots where this didn't work out perfectly. There is a kiln crack on the rim which isn't open, a few small glaze pops, and a kiln split on the rim. His photos are blurry and possibly altered IMO. I think the line might possibly be caused by a varying thickness in the porcelain, similar to a Japanese geisha lithophane cups. I'm not sure what else I can do? My current plan is to cease contact and only refund his money upon return receipt. Any thoughts?</p><p><br /></p><p>The piece had 21 bids, 16 unique bidders, and nearly 50 watchers. I actually felt like I might have sold something that I shouldn't have, since I wasn't done researching it.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Here's the listing-</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Chinese-Porcelain-Eight-Immortals-Bowl-Dynasty-Mark-Enamel-Painted-/301619432777?ssPageName=STRK%3AMESOX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=tPseFogQGr15SpVkX0aZkZo4MxE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Chinese-Porcelain-Eight-Immortals-Bowl-Dynasty-Mark-Enamel-Painted-/301619432777?ssPageName=STRK%3AMESOX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=tPseFogQGr15SpVkX0aZkZo4MxE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Chinese-Porcelain-Eight-Immortals-Bowl-Dynasty-Mark-Enamel-Painted-/301619432777?ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=tPseFogQGr15SpVkX0aZkZo4MxE%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="mr2real, post: 58880, member: 277"]I sold this item recently and it arrived at it's destination in Singapore on the 20th. It was sold through eBay's global shipping program (I just read this could highly impact import fees for the buyer). The buyer sent this message on the 21st "Hi Thank you so much for the bowl. You have done a great job in packing it securely and I have received it safely. One issue with this bowl is, this bowl was broken one chunk on the mouth rim and it was repaired. Please refer to pictures. I do sincerely believe that you may have miss this out unintentionally and you were totally unaware of it. You can see from the picture clearly the unevenness of the connecting surface and the break line accompany the two chips edge on the rim. The two chipped on the two ends are badly patched up and you can see it is rough. It was definitely repaired. Can we work out a partial refund and I will accept this as it is. As this a major fault and it has a big issue with its' value, shall we settle at 40% off ? After which we can close the case and leave each other with good feedback. Hope to hear from you soon Thanks Truthfully William" A few things stuck out as odd in the initial message. Firstly, the eBay and Paypal transaction list the buyers name as Tan Kok Hooi and this message was written by William. Secondly, he refers to "a case" which he has not opened. Thirdly, He closed the message with Truthfully (never seen that before). Here are the five photos he sent me. [ATTACH]15121[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]15122[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]15123[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]15124[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]15125[/ATTACH] I responded that I respectfully disagree with his assessment. I told him that I do not negotiate partial refunds, but I will honor my return policy which is 14 days. He responds " I do not return what I have purchased I will proceed to open a case then" He then responded again about two hours later "Like I said, you may have missed this out unintentionally as this is only be inspected on a closer look This piece info of being repaired is not represented in your photo or description and it is totally unfair for buyer who bid aggressively thinking that this is a perfect piece I still hope we can solve this amicably" He has yet to open a case despite his threats (as perceived by me). I've bought and sold antiques, primarily PGP, for 10 years. I personally studied this piece for several weeks prior to listing it. It has a octagonal shape which they attempted to flair outward toward the lip. There were a few spots where this didn't work out perfectly. There is a kiln crack on the rim which isn't open, a few small glaze pops, and a kiln split on the rim. His photos are blurry and possibly altered IMO. I think the line might possibly be caused by a varying thickness in the porcelain, similar to a Japanese geisha lithophane cups. I'm not sure what else I can do? My current plan is to cease contact and only refund his money upon return receipt. Any thoughts? The piece had 21 bids, 16 unique bidders, and nearly 50 watchers. I actually felt like I might have sold something that I shouldn't have, since I wasn't done researching it. Here's the listing- [URL]http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Chinese-Porcelain-Eight-Immortals-Bowl-Dynasty-Mark-Enamel-Painted-/301619432777?ssPageName=STRK%3AMESOX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=tPseFogQGr15SpVkX0aZkZo4MxE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc[/URL][/QUOTE]
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