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<p>[QUOTE="User 67, post: 774, member: 67"]<font face="Verdana">Where do I go to get checked for digital smallpox? It sounds like a terrible virus. </font></p><p><font face="Verdana"><br /></font></p><p><font face="Verdana">I don't know how anyone would know that another person was "reporting posts for the heck of it" unless they are making an assumption because the mods removed one of their posts for inappropriate content. Either that poster was wrong for posting inappropriate content or the Mods were wrong and out of line -it has nothing to do with who, why or even <i>if </i>it was reported or just noticed by a mod. I see there is a report button here, as well. Are we asking that folks do not use it, because it might upset certain users if we report their posts?</font></p><p><font face="Verdana"><br /></font></p><p><font face="Verdana">fidbald, you suggest that if a person is blunt that they look at this as a teaching experience and "it would be nice to give good sources and links <i>then</i>." Honestly, this is an open and free forum. There are many kinds of teachers and many kinds of students. We all have different techniques and desires. Some teachers really only want to show off and get applause, some students are only interested in finding out if their widgit is worth $10,000 so they can pay off their mortgage, otherwise they can't be bothered with learning other information.</font></p><p><font face="Verdana"><br /></font></p><p><font face="Verdana">When I post, I call them like I see them and I do make assumptions about what the 'student' wants to know and how much they are willing to learn. But I always try to answer the question <i>that is asked</i>, and don't like to make assumptions and write long winded answers. For instance, if the poster asks, Do you think this is the original Fiestaware orange or the reproduction? If I knew the answer, I might say, "from the photo it looks like the repro, the original orange from the 1930's tended more toward a reddish or deep pumpkin orange, the later is more of a tangerine, but the only way to tell for sure is to compare them side by side." (I made this up as an example, btw)</font></p><p><font face="Verdana"><br /></font></p><p><font face="Verdana">I wouldn't answer with a 1,000 word essay that read like a wikipedia entry "Fiestaware started manufacture in .... their first line was made of 13 different colors... In 1942.... by the 1990's, they had made a range of 52 colors that included .... The rarest colors are.... Your dish is worth..." Because none of that is what the person asked, and they may not even be interested in knowing (otherwise they would have asked), so I am wasting my time.</font></p><p><font face="Verdana"><br /></font></p><p><font face="Verdana">Now, your teaching style might be completely different than mine. If I write "You are wrong in your assumption about that frame, It is from the 1920s" You are more than welcome to be nice and follow up my answer and to give good sources and links to back up my claim if you think that it would be of use to the questioner.</font></p><p><font face="Verdana"><br /></font></p><p><font face="Verdana">And if you believe that I am being intolerant, and not trying to understand why the other person came to a completely wrong or other conclusion, you can definitely step in to help mollify and explain the situation. You may even explain to the asker, why <i>I</i> might came off as intolerant and came to a completely different conclusion. </font></p><p><font face="Verdana"><br /></font></p><p><font face="Verdana">I have moderated my own forums and forums for others. I have found that any time someone disagrees they can, and often are, called a troll, because they happened to raise your ire. A real troll has no stake or interest in the discussion except to make someone angry, perhaps they had a bad sales week, or their wife left them and being a troll is akin to kicking the dog. They want to see someone else in pain. As a note to all, the best method of dealing with a troll is with kindness and humor, something a troll can never stand. "Thank you for your opinion, we have never heard anything quite like that, before you joined." "Thank you" to every comment, acknowledges the troll, yet takes the steam out of his sails, from there you find out who is a troll and who isn't.</font></p><p><font face="Verdana"><br /></font></p><p><font face="Verdana">As someone who was in the business of selling antiques, was a picker, owned a store (let it go for health reasons) I understand the desire for some dealers to belly ache about customers, and that's fine to do at a private coffee clutch in the backroom of your shop. But in a public forum, I don't see how it reflects well on the antique seller community. And as a collector, now, it is offensive and divisive. </font></p><p><font face="Verdana"><br /></font></p><p><font face="Verdana">FBay uses and nurtures the negative elements of dealers fragile egos, by covertly, when not actively, pitting sellers against buyers (Like the King of Saudi Arabia blaming all of his peoples problems on the USA). Indeed, <i>some </i>dealers seem to revel in dissing and hissing at the buyers they earn their income from. Not only is that unprofessional, but it is one thing that makes the fBay boards so intolerable. I am hoping that these boards will be different.</font></p><p><font face="Verdana"><br /></font></p><p><font face="Verdana">Political Correctness is a polite (and politic) way of saying "do the right thing" or "don't act like a bigot". I am reminded of a speech that I had arranged for a State Senator at a youth concert in the late 1970s. I introduced him to his sign language interpreter, and then he asked me "what do we need her for?" Being unaware that some of his constituents may be deaf, I explained "it's politically correct." He had never heard the term or concept before. Most people, when it get's down to it, try to follow the Golden Rule and do unto others, and they are unafraid of Political Correctness. But I find that people who dis and spew about Political Correctness (Hypocrites, prohibit opinions) are people who wish to remain bigots or are uninterested in doing the right thing -just my opinion based on experience.</font></p><p><font face="Verdana"><br /></font></p><p><font face="Verdana">If you find these statements provocative, fine. If you think I am being a troll, I am at the wrong forums.</font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="User 67, post: 774, member: 67"][FONT=Verdana]Where do I go to get checked for digital smallpox? It sounds like a terrible virus. I don't know how anyone would know that another person was "reporting posts for the heck of it" unless they are making an assumption because the mods removed one of their posts for inappropriate content. Either that poster was wrong for posting inappropriate content or the Mods were wrong and out of line -it has nothing to do with who, why or even [I]if [/I]it was reported or just noticed by a mod. I see there is a report button here, as well. Are we asking that folks do not use it, because it might upset certain users if we report their posts? fidbald, you suggest that if a person is blunt that they look at this as a teaching experience and "it would be nice to give good sources and links [I]then[/I]." Honestly, this is an open and free forum. There are many kinds of teachers and many kinds of students. We all have different techniques and desires. Some teachers really only want to show off and get applause, some students are only interested in finding out if their widgit is worth $10,000 so they can pay off their mortgage, otherwise they can't be bothered with learning other information. When I post, I call them like I see them and I do make assumptions about what the 'student' wants to know and how much they are willing to learn. But I always try to answer the question [I]that is asked[/I], and don't like to make assumptions and write long winded answers. For instance, if the poster asks, Do you think this is the original Fiestaware orange or the reproduction? If I knew the answer, I might say, "from the photo it looks like the repro, the original orange from the 1930's tended more toward a reddish or deep pumpkin orange, the later is more of a tangerine, but the only way to tell for sure is to compare them side by side." (I made this up as an example, btw) I wouldn't answer with a 1,000 word essay that read like a wikipedia entry "Fiestaware started manufacture in .... their first line was made of 13 different colors... In 1942.... by the 1990's, they had made a range of 52 colors that included .... The rarest colors are.... Your dish is worth..." Because none of that is what the person asked, and they may not even be interested in knowing (otherwise they would have asked), so I am wasting my time. Now, your teaching style might be completely different than mine. If I write "You are wrong in your assumption about that frame, It is from the 1920s" You are more than welcome to be nice and follow up my answer and to give good sources and links to back up my claim if you think that it would be of use to the questioner. And if you believe that I am being intolerant, and not trying to understand why the other person came to a completely wrong or other conclusion, you can definitely step in to help mollify and explain the situation. You may even explain to the asker, why [I]I[/I] might came off as intolerant and came to a completely different conclusion. I have moderated my own forums and forums for others. I have found that any time someone disagrees they can, and often are, called a troll, because they happened to raise your ire. A real troll has no stake or interest in the discussion except to make someone angry, perhaps they had a bad sales week, or their wife left them and being a troll is akin to kicking the dog. They want to see someone else in pain. As a note to all, the best method of dealing with a troll is with kindness and humor, something a troll can never stand. "Thank you for your opinion, we have never heard anything quite like that, before you joined." "Thank you" to every comment, acknowledges the troll, yet takes the steam out of his sails, from there you find out who is a troll and who isn't. As someone who was in the business of selling antiques, was a picker, owned a store (let it go for health reasons) I understand the desire for some dealers to belly ache about customers, and that's fine to do at a private coffee clutch in the backroom of your shop. But in a public forum, I don't see how it reflects well on the antique seller community. And as a collector, now, it is offensive and divisive. FBay uses and nurtures the negative elements of dealers fragile egos, by covertly, when not actively, pitting sellers against buyers (Like the King of Saudi Arabia blaming all of his peoples problems on the USA). Indeed, [I]some [/I]dealers seem to revel in dissing and hissing at the buyers they earn their income from. Not only is that unprofessional, but it is one thing that makes the fBay boards so intolerable. I am hoping that these boards will be different. Political Correctness is a polite (and politic) way of saying "do the right thing" or "don't act like a bigot". I am reminded of a speech that I had arranged for a State Senator at a youth concert in the late 1970s. I introduced him to his sign language interpreter, and then he asked me "what do we need her for?" Being unaware that some of his constituents may be deaf, I explained "it's politically correct." He had never heard the term or concept before. Most people, when it get's down to it, try to follow the Golden Rule and do unto others, and they are unafraid of Political Correctness. But I find that people who dis and spew about Political Correctness (Hypocrites, prohibit opinions) are people who wish to remain bigots or are uninterested in doing the right thing -just my opinion based on experience. If you find these statements provocative, fine. If you think I am being a troll, I am at the wrong forums.[/FONT][/QUOTE]
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