Daguerreotype of John Campbell (Possible Captain)

Turns out Common Cemetery of Waitsfield VT is on Find-A-Grave after all, but neither Capt John Campbell nor his wife nor any of the children are listed as interred there. Given the early dates involved, their headstones may have been damaged or the carving disintegrated.

 

I would have done the same, Bakers... I just pointed that out because I had not seen the sources you were looking at when you made that statement.

 

By the way, I just found a digitized version of microfilm from the Family History Library in Salt Lake City that is the town record book of births, marriages, and deaths in Waitsfield from 1780-1856. However, it may be necessary to go through page by page if one was thinking of using it. I opened it, and actually think the microfilm would be easier to use. But maybe not.

This link may go right to the digital version of the microfilm: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3...53&wc=32Z1-SPK:324710701,325402001,1583519503

Maybe this isn't needed for the current question, but... I love that they are digitizing so much of their collection!

 

That's great, Fig! I joined Family Search about 6 months after I joined Ancestry in 2010. Was very surprised to find a few things that were not available on Ancestry, but, since I only used it for "search" and did not create a tree there, I can go for months without visiting.

FS has recently opened a Family History Discovery Center nearby. Totally free. Plus it's a "branch" of the Family History Library in Salt Lake, so it gives access to many things that are not available for free anywhere else. I think I should schedule a visit!

 

According to Lucy CAMPBELL Hatch info on her gravesite website,
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=83879550

her parents were Hugh and Marianna Johnson CAMPBELL of Morristown, VT. According to Hugh CAMPBELL'S death certificate, he was born in 1887 in Morristown to John and Viola Small CAMPBELL and died of leukemis in 1953. Does not give cemetery.

John CAMPBELL, father of Hugh, was 21 years old (born c1858) when he married Viola Small on 8/7/1879 in Morristown, VT, according to their marriage record. His middle initial was M. His parents were James M. and Emily E. CAMPBELL. He was a farmer in Morristown.

James M. CAMPBELL, father of John M., married Emily Thayer on 2/22/1838 in Waitsfield, Vt, according to their marriage record. Darn, it doesn't have his age or parents name.

Found a death record for a James M. CAMPBELL who was a farmer in Waitsfield. This one died March 16, 1875 at the age of 57 yrs, 4 mons. meaning he was born c1818 making him old enough to marry in 1838. No wife's name is given, in fact no space/line labeled "wife." Parents are John and Louise CAMPBELL. Fig, you found the Captain's wife's name as Lois, Louise and Lois are very close and can easily mis-written. In fact on this death record her name is written with the o and i run together and the e at the end is in parentheses.

Can't spot anything earlier on these folks in the VT birth/marriage/death records. If the John & Louise or Lois are the right ones, they would be Lucy CAMPBELL Hatch's great-great-great (3x) grandparents, not her 2X great grandparents. The original writing, "great grandfather," may have been written by her grandparents John & Viola Small CAMPBELL, and the "great" in blue ink added by her parents, Hugh & Marianna Johnson CAMPBELL.

The above info was all from the databases on the NEHGS (New England Historic Genealogical Society) website:
http://www.americanancestors.org/index.aspx

--- Susan

 

Fig, the NEHGS has microfilms and microfiche of the Vermont Births/Marriages/Deaths online as one of the databases of their massive databank search engines. For some reason I thought you were a member. Baker, I wasn't sure whether you were or not. Their online sources are great especially anyone with New England ancestry.

I along with many others was disgusted with Ancestry.com actions back in the late 1990s or early 2000 when they took over rootsweb. Literally thousands had uploaded their genealogy research to rootsweb because it was a non-profit organization with free access for all. Along came ancestry.com saying free access would continue then in a few years they slammed the door shut. Membership was then required for allll. Those who had given their valuable work for public domain usage could no longer access their own work without paying a fee and that fee kept rising and rising. I could rant on and on about ancestry.com. It has turned into a huge commercial entity. Okay, I'll quit.

--- Susan

 

Hi, Susan -- Yes, I am a member of NEHGS. I didn't do much of a search of their databases, though. The thing I found through the Family Search site was done by browsing and accident. I was not approaching this from a "thorough search" type of viewpoint. So are you saying that NEHGS has the same thing as what I found in Family Search, a digitization of the actual town vital records book? If so, I should use them for this because the one on Family Search is not searchable.

And by the way, tomorrow I'm leaving for Salt Lake City to take part in the NEHGS research tour. I've been out there with them a few times before, not every year. I am saving my more thorough searches for my own ancestry and other topics of interest.

I may not be dropping by this forum very much for the next week or so after today. I'm currently trying to get my notes organized for the three research projects I am taking with me.

 

Wow I come home from the auction this afternoon and all of you absolutely lovely people have come up with so much! Thank you all for the help! I'm going to look through all of the fantastic links you all have posted! Thank you again so much! I greatly appreciate it!

 

Oh, and I'm there with you about Ancestry. But I thought Rootsweb still had some free content? I don't try to use it much these days, though. I have mostly looked at WorldConnect information, using it for clues on hard-to-find people.

So far I have successfully resisted joining Ancestry myself, but must admit (as I have in the past) that one of my sisters has an account that she rarely uses and a couple of years ago she invited me to use it. So I have been using it sometimes. I can't use any of the communication features, though, since it's on an email account that is hers.

 

Yes, but not nearly as much free content as before Ancestry.

I had a similar set-up. A cousin and I shared a membership until NEHGS got their databases accessible online. We dropped Ancestry like a hot potato.

>So are you saying that NEHGS has the same thing as what I found in Family Search, a digitization of the actual town vital records book? If so, I should use them for this because the one on Family Search is not searchable.<

Yes, and searchable. I got the info in message #37 including the pic of the microfiche and info in message #45 from NEHGS Vermont Births/Marriages/Deaths database. The results shows the actual microfiche or microfilm pics.

Description of the Vermont BMD to 2008 database:
"This database contains the records of births, marriages and deaths to 2008, as filed with the state of Vermont. These records are currently held by the Vermont State Archives and Records Administration. The collection includes more than 1.5 million birth records, more than 1.8 million marriage records, and more than 1 million death records. Names of parents and spouses have also been indexed, when available.

The records held in this collection refer to the statewide index of vital records maintained by the Vermont State Archives. Town clerks were required to send copies of vital records to the state beginning in 1857. The state government began creating a statewide index to these records in 1919. The original vital records are still held at town level. It may be possible to obtain a copy of the original record by contacting the corresponding town clerk's office."

Here's the search webpage for all or any of the databases, if you click "Advance Search +" you can specifically select a database, etc.
http://www.americanancestors.org/search/advanced-search

Here are 9 pages of the databases accessible online:
http://www.americanancestors.org/browse-database/?page=1

There are 3 dbs specifically for Vermont:
Vermont Births, Marriages and Deaths to 2008
Vermont Soldiers in WWI
Vermont: Miscellaneous Censuses and Substitutes, 1778-1822,1840

--- Susan

 

>And by the way, tomorrow I'm leaving for Salt Lake City to take part in the NEHGS research tour. I've been out there with them a few times before, not every year. I am saving my more thorough searches for my own ancestry and other topics of interest. <

Oh, I'm green with jealousy! I've been out there a couple of times, but never long enough, but then I would need to spend the rest of my life to make it long enough. Each time in SLC, had family and/or friends with us. They couldn't understand why I wanted to spend hours in the library. We usually use SLC as home, headquarters, of vacations to fly in and out of, while seeing the magnificent landscapes, geological wonders, etc from Arizona to Montana.

Fig, do have a wonderful genealogical productive trip!

--- Susan

 

Thanks, Susan, for all of your information and the good wishes!

 

Susan, if you ever get a chance to go there with a group like the NEHGS one, that would be ideal. And if at all possible, take as few family or friends who are non-researchers as you can. Just focus on research. Every time I've been there I've gone with one of these type of group excursions. This will be the 7th time since 1998, I think -- my fourth time with NEHGS, and I previously went three times with a smaller group that was led by owners of a small genealogical company. I like having other researchers around. They are very congenial and some smaller parts of the group have breakfast and other meals together. And the consultants from NEHGS are great at giving advice on new paths to take in research.

I'll be leaving home in a couple of hours -- I will probably check in on the forums a bit while I'm gone, since the mobile version is so easy to use.

 

Have fun, Fig!