Daguerreotype of John Campbell (Possible Captain)

Wow thank you so much for the help! Do you know where I can find info on "Corning's Detachment" ?

Thank you so much for your helps as always!

 

I'm honestly not sure why they would have gotten rid of them! To be honest, I bought it from a dealer who bought it from the auction in CT. So I'm not even sure what else was sold. If it was part of my family history, I'd def. want to keep it!

 

Far be it from me to judge what another family decides to keep or sell (having been through the process with my siblings a few years ago.) I just know how I would feel if I knew that such an item existed in my parents' stuff. Of course the emphasis should be on "knew." Even with the resurgence of interest in "family history," some folks might not care beyond the "ancestors" they actually met.

As for "Corning's Detachment," you may need to contact someone at the Vermont State Archives (I assume there is such a thing in Montpelier) if Mr. Google can't produce.

 

Well, I gather from what I found on the Big G, that the part of the Vt. Militia called "Corning's Detachment" served in US Army regiments, rather than under the state government itself. That's apparently why there doesn't appear to be a "Unit Register" or muster roll under that name. The militia units were all organized at the local community level and the state legislature had to pass a special law to create this "detachment" of the militia. Otherwise they would only have been able to serve within the borders of the state, even though they were needed elsewhere. I did find a list of War of 1812 pensioners for Vermont (a work in progress from other sources) but there was no John Campbell on the list.

Perhaps @morgen94 could see if there is any information about him on Fold3?

 

Delighted you got the additional info. I haven't had much luck on Capt. John Campbell in VT either. I did find the mention of a Eli Wait at the age of 19 who in 1814 served in the "Corning's detachment of the Vermont Volunteer Militia **and** in Capt. John Campbell's Company of Peck's 4th Regiment." Does't this sound like Corning's detachment and Capt. John Campbell's Company of Peck's 4th Regiment were of 2 different groups or were both under the Vermont Militia??? Baker's info no doubt answer's this question.

This is a pdf (Adobe Acrobat formatted file) on the Waite Genealogy website. Scroll down to page 6, "Generation 2", 2nd paragraph:
http://www.waitegenealogy.org/FGS/jed.pdf

I found listing of 6 men on the pension records (probably the same list Baker found) who served in Corning's detachment - no mention of a Capt. John Campbell. Note that 4 of them served "also in 4th Regt (Peck's)."
http://boards.ancestry.ca/SearchRes...0027E2=&period=&_F0002BF1=Military&_80004003=

Gee, the actual Capt John is an elusive fellow!

--- Susan

 

Found Fold3.

1st webpage of it:
https://www.fold3.com/browse/247/h5iT6dgqR

With the "War of 1812 Pension File" FREE highlighted click "Vermont on the right > Click the letter "C" > just our luck no Campbell listed.

Wait a minute. I found a record on Captain John Campbell in Fold3 under "War of 1812" > Publication: War of 1812 Service Record > Publication: War of 1812 Service Record Index > "Vermont > C. In fact there are are 2 listings for a Capt John Campbell. Don't get excited, one needs a "Premium membership" to see it.

https://www.fold3.com/browse/276/hlYOPAgp_iTSZ-ZPVSooI8J03xlbvYdbg

--- Susan

 

I wonder if that last one is only the one image? The source name says it is an Index, and those don't generally have a lot of information because they are referring to other files.

 

The same thing is true about "Index files" on Ancestry - a very brief note, without a document attached or many details, of a name listed in another source.

We might get lucky with Veteran's Day coming up. These sites often do a "free for everyone" period around certain special or historically significant days. Usually the weekend closest, making it either 2 or 3 weekends from now.

 

Morning ladies! You both are no doubt right, only an index with probably no real info. Did spend time on the NEHGS website doing searches in their many databases. Several Vermonth John Campbells in the 1790s-1870s timeframe did come up in censuses and birth/marriage/death records. Impossible to tell if any the one we want because none of them had Captain before the name. I suspect Capt. John probably was not born in VT. As Baker noted earlier, VT was settled by many from CT. Many of the state's counties and towns carry CT names for example the towns of Woodstock, Windsor, Pomfret, New Haven, and the counties Windham Co. and Windsor Co. It was fairly easy to migrate from CT to VT via the Connecticut River. A couple ancestral branches on the paternal side of my family went from CT to VT. One if them received land in VT in lieu of money for Revolutionary military service. One ancestral branch on my maternal side also migrated to VT soon after the Revolution from MA. Many of VT towns also carry MA town names, anddd all these names were carry over the "big pond" from England!

--- Susan

 

I just found a history of Waitsfield, Vermont that gives the Campbell family genealogy, including Capt. John Campbell, born 1779! See Google Books, here>
It starts on pg. 257, and Capt. John is on pg. 258, in case this link doesn't go to the right place:
https://books.google.com/books?id=O...yAIVhmImCh2N0wpe#v=onepage&q=campbell&f=false

So now one question is, has Bakersgma got the correct lineage tracing back to him? She left wiggle room for doubt in her original comment.

 

Golly, that message of mine on Fold3 was another "senior monent" for me. Baker's message #17 was on Fold3 and the index. I swear I had read all the messages before posting, but addle-brain me either missed that or ALZ is setting in.

--- Susan

 

Good find, Fig! I haven't gone to your link yet because I'm on the mini iPad. It is nearly impossible to view Google books' pages on my mini iPad because the pages do not shrink up enough to fit the mini's screen. I'll look at the link later when on the desktop.

--- Susan

 

Susan, it says that he was born 22 March 1779 in New Boston, New Hampshire. He moved to Waitsfield in 1802. He was "Capt. of militia" and died 23 March 1852. (Helping to put a "latest date" on the daguerreotype, by the way.)

Before Waitsfield he lived briefly in Morristown, Vermont where he married in 1801 to Lois Whitney, b. 1782 in Shutesbury, MA and she d. 1853. Oh, and they had 15 children! Not too unusual in those days, but seems like a lot now.

 

That does appear to be the Capt John referenced without specific dates in the Campbell tree I found yesterday, Fig! I say that because his son James M. matches in greater detail.

Great find!

 

Oh - and in case it isn't obvious from all the page links - Capt John is John (superscript 3) pg 258.

 

The wiggle I room I left was due to the lack of detail about John Campbell in that tree. But the specifics on the others back to that point were logically consistent with the attached documentary evidence. I think the "great great grandfather" notation in the case is pretty conclusive.

 

From your findings, Fig, I finally found his death record in the Vermont Births, Marriages and Deaths to 2008 on the NEHGS website. Volume "Deaths C to 1871," page 1151. For what's it worth here is a copy of the microfiche.

--- Susan

 

Found him in the 1850 Census. One member of his household is the youngest son mentioned in the book.

Also found the Index card (actually copy of the handwritten card) of Vermont Vital Records with his death record. Called "Captain," same date of death, place of birth and death, spouse's name. Unfortunately the cemetery referenced in not included in Find-A-Grave.

One other thing - this kind of "town history" is normally much more accurate and authentic than the books written in the late 1800's giving "puff piece" history of various important personages in many towns and counties around the country. The person who wrote it had access to the original source documents and in much greater detail (note the property ownership information) than the other type.

 

That's the card!

 

Here's the grave of Lucy Campbell Hatch with her family info.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=83879550

--- Susan