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<p>[QUOTE="Ladybranch, post: 44792, member: 44"]This vase parlor lamp would have had a matching ball shade. It still has the ball shade ring. It appears to have the remnants of a central draft burner that has been gutted/reamed out to allow a light socket to fit into the central air intake tube. The middle/center of a central draft font has an an air vent running down through it. A pipe is now down that air intake and attached to the bottom of the font with a disk. This allows the electric cord from the bottom of the light socket to run down through the font and out the bottom. I suspect this lamp is no older than the 1890s and into the early 1900s. Yours may be hand painted. Look the base over carefully for an artist name/sig.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here are examples:</p><p><a href="http://www.oillampantiques.com/our-current-range/parlour-lamps/parlor-oil-lamp/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.oillampantiques.com/our-current-range/parlour-lamps/parlor-oil-lamp/" rel="nofollow">http://www.oillampantiques.com/our-current-range/parlour-lamps/parlor-oil-lamp/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>This one is marriage of the base and ball shade:</p><p><a href="http://www.oillampantiques.com/our-current-range/parlour-lamps/hand-painted-vase-lamp-marriage/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.oillampantiques.com/our-current-range/parlour-lamps/hand-painted-vase-lamp-marriage/" rel="nofollow">http://www.oillampantiques.com/our-current-range/parlour-lamps/hand-painted-vase-lamp-marriage/</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.victoriangardensantiques.com/629-victorian-hand-painted-windmills-and-sailing-boats-gwtw-electrified-oil-lamp-with-original-ball-shade.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.victoriangardensantiques.com/629-victorian-hand-painted-windmills-and-sailing-boats-gwtw-electrified-oil-lamp-with-original-ball-shade.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.victoriangardensantiques.com/629-victorian-hand-painted-windmills-and-sailing-boats-gwtw-electrified-oil-lamp-with-original-ball-shade.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>At the bottom of this page is a central draft burner with a little explanation of it:</p><p><a href="http://www.thelampworks.com/lw_info_burner_id.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.thelampworks.com/lw_info_burner_id.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.thelampworks.com/lw_info_burner_id.htm</a></p><p><br /></p><p>As another has already said because it has been converted does reduce its value, but the absence of the original shade devaluates it even more.</p><p><br /></p><p>As to the dog, I'm not sure. Springer Spaniels were a popular subject back in "them thar days", but as others have pointed out it looks how St. Bernards were pictured back then also. I have no idea who the maker was. None of those markings on the bottom look like those of such lamp manufacturers Bradley & Hubbard, Ives, Miller, etc... Those markings may just be inventory numbers and letters used by a foundry that supplied lamp manufactures with iron bases. The wick lifter lever has been removed from the font. Sometimes those levers had patent numbers on them. At the moment I don't recognize the font fill cap design either. Sometimes the design on fill caps would be the same as designs found the lamp manufacturers of thumbwheels/ wick winders. As central draft burners didn't have thumbwheels, they had wick lifters, the design was sometimes found on the fill caps. You might look through the following pages of thumbwheel designs for one that looks like on your fill cap.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.oldcopper.org/LampMaka-r.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.oldcopper.org/LampMaka-r.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.oldcopper.org/LampMaka-r.htm</a></p><p><a href="http://www.oldcopper.org/LampMakas-z.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.oldcopper.org/LampMakas-z.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.oldcopper.org/LampMakas-z.htm</a></p><p><a href="http://www.oldcopper.org/european%20manufacturers.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.oldcopper.org/european%20manufacturers.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.oldcopper.org/european manufacturers.htm</a></p><p><a href="http://www.oldcopper.org/oil_lamp_makers.htm#References" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.oldcopper.org/oil_lamp_makers.htm#References" rel="nofollow">http://www.oldcopper.org/oil_lamp_makers.htm#References</a></p><p><br /></p><p>--- Susan[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ladybranch, post: 44792, member: 44"]This vase parlor lamp would have had a matching ball shade. It still has the ball shade ring. It appears to have the remnants of a central draft burner that has been gutted/reamed out to allow a light socket to fit into the central air intake tube. The middle/center of a central draft font has an an air vent running down through it. A pipe is now down that air intake and attached to the bottom of the font with a disk. This allows the electric cord from the bottom of the light socket to run down through the font and out the bottom. I suspect this lamp is no older than the 1890s and into the early 1900s. Yours may be hand painted. Look the base over carefully for an artist name/sig. Here are examples: [URL]http://www.oillampantiques.com/our-current-range/parlour-lamps/parlor-oil-lamp/[/URL] This one is marriage of the base and ball shade: [URL]http://www.oillampantiques.com/our-current-range/parlour-lamps/hand-painted-vase-lamp-marriage/[/URL] [URL]http://www.victoriangardensantiques.com/629-victorian-hand-painted-windmills-and-sailing-boats-gwtw-electrified-oil-lamp-with-original-ball-shade.html[/URL] At the bottom of this page is a central draft burner with a little explanation of it: [URL]http://www.thelampworks.com/lw_info_burner_id.htm[/URL] As another has already said because it has been converted does reduce its value, but the absence of the original shade devaluates it even more. As to the dog, I'm not sure. Springer Spaniels were a popular subject back in "them thar days", but as others have pointed out it looks how St. Bernards were pictured back then also. I have no idea who the maker was. None of those markings on the bottom look like those of such lamp manufacturers Bradley & Hubbard, Ives, Miller, etc... Those markings may just be inventory numbers and letters used by a foundry that supplied lamp manufactures with iron bases. The wick lifter lever has been removed from the font. Sometimes those levers had patent numbers on them. At the moment I don't recognize the font fill cap design either. Sometimes the design on fill caps would be the same as designs found the lamp manufacturers of thumbwheels/ wick winders. As central draft burners didn't have thumbwheels, they had wick lifters, the design was sometimes found on the fill caps. You might look through the following pages of thumbwheel designs for one that looks like on your fill cap. [URL]http://www.oldcopper.org/LampMaka-r.htm[/URL] [URL]http://www.oldcopper.org/LampMakas-z.htm[/URL] [URL='http://www.oldcopper.org/european%20manufacturers.htm']http://www.oldcopper.org/european manufacturers.htm[/URL] [URL]http://www.oldcopper.org/oil_lamp_makers.htm#References[/URL] --- Susan[/QUOTE]
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