Log in or Sign up
Antiques Board
Home
Forums
>
Antique Forums
>
Art
>
Collective research: Satirical Print, anomymous, 16th century
>
Reply to Thread
Message:
<p>[QUOTE="Ex Libris, post: 2162472, member: 14916"]Ok, so far we have found a lot of information, but for now I think we have raised more questions then we answered them (that is no problem, it happens in research). Let's make a summary of what we have:</p><p><br /></p><p>We have a copper engraving with nine men playing games (backgammon, cards and dice) on a table. One row of the men are Catholic clergyman (the pope, a cardinal (?) and 3 monks), the other row of men are wearing 16th century noblemen's clothes. Around the playing men there are 4 cartouches with (Southern) Dutch 16th century text about true believe. "Our brother Francis" is mentioned in the text.</p><p>The engraving has no signature of the artist.</p><p><br /></p><p>We have found 4 different versions of the engraving by at least 2 different artist in 2 languages (Dutch and English):</p><p><br /></p><p>We have found 4 versions:</p><p><a href="https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/P_1871-1209-970" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/P_1871-1209-970" rel="nofollow">Without title</a> - anonymous - without dating (British Museum and my version)</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/my/collections/1682701--jonas-richter/people-playing-games/objecten#/RP-P-1887-A-11470,64" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/my/collections/1682701--jonas-richter/people-playing-games/objecten#/RP-P-1887-A-11470,64" rel="nofollow">The Game against the Monks</a> - Pieter van de Heyden(1570) (Rijksmuseum)</p><p><a href="https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/P_1849-0315-10" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/P_1849-0315-10" rel="nofollow">The Revelles of Christdome</a> - Thomas Cockson(~1609) (British Museum)</p><p><a href="https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/P_1868-0808-3221" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/P_1868-0808-3221" rel="nofollow">The Royal Gamesters</a> - anonymous(1626-1629) (British Museum)[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ex Libris, post: 2162472, member: 14916"]Ok, so far we have found a lot of information, but for now I think we have raised more questions then we answered them (that is no problem, it happens in research). Let's make a summary of what we have: We have a copper engraving with nine men playing games (backgammon, cards and dice) on a table. One row of the men are Catholic clergyman (the pope, a cardinal (?) and 3 monks), the other row of men are wearing 16th century noblemen's clothes. Around the playing men there are 4 cartouches with (Southern) Dutch 16th century text about true believe. "Our brother Francis" is mentioned in the text. The engraving has no signature of the artist. We have found 4 different versions of the engraving by at least 2 different artist in 2 languages (Dutch and English): We have found 4 versions: [URL='https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/P_1871-1209-970']Without title[/URL] - anonymous - without dating (British Museum and my version) [URL='https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/my/collections/1682701--jonas-richter/people-playing-games/objecten#/RP-P-1887-A-11470,64']The Game against the Monks[/URL] - Pieter van de Heyden(1570) (Rijksmuseum) [URL='https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/P_1849-0315-10']The Revelles of Christdome[/URL] - Thomas Cockson(~1609) (British Museum) [URL='https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/P_1868-0808-3221']The Royal Gamesters[/URL] - anonymous(1626-1629) (British Museum)[/QUOTE]
Your name or email address:
Do you already have an account?
No, create an account now.
Yes, my password is:
Forgot your password?
Stay logged in
Antiques Board
Home
Forums
>
Antique Forums
>
Art
>
Collective research: Satirical Print, anomymous, 16th century
>
Home
Home
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Activity
Recent Posts
Forums
Forums
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Posts
Gallery
Gallery
Quick Links
Search Media
New Media
Members
Members
Quick Links
Notable Members
Registered Members
Current Visitors
Recent Activity
New Profile Posts
Menu
Search
Search titles only
Posted by Member:
Separate names with a comma.
Newer Than:
Search this thread only
Search this forum only
Display results as threads
Useful Searches
Recent Posts
More...