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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Siden, post: 1650116, member: 14100&quot;]The piece is definitely Chinese and new; likely from the 80&#039;s.&nbsp; Much of the really good quality antique (150 - 300 year old) Chinese Cloisonne is now impossible to find, especially on ebay.&nbsp; Chinese nationals snap up the really good stuff before you will even get the chance. You really need to examine and handle the older quality Chinese pieces to know what to look for - there is no real formula for this - you just know it when you see and touch it.&nbsp; I am fortunate that my mother collected early Chinese cloisonne, some of which is exceptional and some of which is what I consider &quot;above average&quot; for genuine antique pieces.&nbsp; However, I would say that I only have about 10 pieces of truly exceptional Chinese Cloisonne.</p><p><br /></p><p>Japanese Cloisonne is a bit easier, for me, to understand and collect.&nbsp; I typically look for Japanese Cloisonne made from the late 1800&#039;s to the 1920&#039;s, possibly into the early 30&#039;s.&nbsp; However, with Japanese cloisonne, what most serious collectors today are hunting for are pieces exhibiting exceptionally fine detail and exceptional artistry.&nbsp; To me, it makes no difference if the piece is signed; in fact, I prefer unique, highly detailed unsigned pieces which showcase the talent of the artist who made it.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>Much of the really fine Japanese pieces were made in the early 1900&#039;s when the government was incubating the cloisonne industry to market and sell exceptional pieces globally to fund imperial Japan.&nbsp; The older Japanese pieces - pre-1880&#039;s, while interesting from a historical perspective, are often less valuable because the work is inferior - basically, poorer copies of the exceptional Chinese cloisonne artists that came before the Meiji period. It wasn&#039;t until just after the turn of the century that artists like Namikawa Yasuyuki and others were pushing the boundaries of the cloisonne art form in a hotly competitive environment.&nbsp; Interestingly, in the 1970&#039;s (when my mother was accumulating cloisonne) these pieces were considered &quot;too new&quot; and did not then have the collectability that they do today.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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