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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Any Jewelry, post: 3037777, member: 2844&quot;]Rusko, could you give the size?</p><p><br /></p><p>And distorted, so there is no way I can say much about the keris proper.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie14" alt=":arghh:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Could you photograph it straight so we can see the keris as it is? And please photos of both sides of the keris (blade) so I can see the pamor, or damascene pattern.</p><p><br /></p><p>Probably a result of the photo, I count 9 luk (waves).<img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wink.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=";)" unselectable="on" /> The number of luk should be odd, not even. Only very occasionally do you see a Dukun or Shaman&#039;s keris with an even number.</p><p><br /></p><p>Right now it looks like an antique keris from West Madura, the country of my ancestors.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/smile.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=":)" unselectable="on" /></p><p>Madura is a former kingdom/sultanate on a group of islands that lie north of East Java and Bali. The main island is also called Madura, and it looks like this is from the western part of that island. (Are you still with me? <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie51" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />)</p><p>It is a good keris (the blade). Nice detail on the base, which means it goes beyond village level.</p><p>Does the keris fit in the sheath? It looks like it sticks out a bit more than usual. Could you post a photo of it completely in the sheath?</p><p><br /></p><p>Assuming it is Madurese and not a Madura-East Java marriage, the following:</p><p>The ship of the sheath is called a &#039;ladrangan sukun&#039;, named after the shape of a leaf. Madurese often relate shapes of objects to plants and flowers.</p><p>The hilt should face the other way, always towards the short end of the ship, whatever the origin of the keris. Highly carved hilts can face more to the side of the ship, but never to the long end.</p><p>The hilt is a regular &#039;nunggak semi&#039; or sprouting trunk type. The nunggak semi originated in Demak on the north coast of Java, but it is used in most of Java and in West Madura.</p><p>Madurese kerises usually have intricately carved hilts, but this simple type is also found in West Madura.</p><p>The black lines are painted on to suggest a more prestigious type of wood.</p><p>The hilt ring is of a classic Madurese shape called &#039;angkup randu&#039;, it is probably copper. Old angkup randus like this are hard to come by, don&#039;t ever change it for one of those Javanese bling ones.</p><p><br /></p><p>Looking forward to more photos.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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