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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Fid, post: 383810, member: 7724&quot;]look once at the crest of New Bern and spot the difference <img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/biggrin.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=":D" unselectable="on" />.</p><p>Brienz would be the town for the swiss carvings,&nbsp; sold also to English tourists, and shown at the Great Exibiton in London in 1851.&nbsp; I doubt someone would have gone to the Black Forest region as a tourist in those early days, but as the whole Alberts and others were German it may well be.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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