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<p>[QUOTE="Bronwen, post: 999655, member: 5833"]Author makes this statement, 'Pure black chalcedony is rare', but does not support it in any way. It may be out there somewhere, but it is safe to assume that any hardstone cameo with a black layer has been treated. Any time the color is deep & even, dye has to be suspected. I put some photos of cameos in untreated stone at the end for comparison.</p><p><br /></p><p>This, 'by definition, onyx should have straight parallel stripes of black and white', is true insofar as in the glyptics world 'onyx' is used in combination, not by itself. The non-white layer does not have to be black. The notion that the distinction between 'onyx' & 'agate' is whether or not the color layers are 'wavy, curved, or irregular' is an eccentric one; the material is routinely called 'banded' or 'ribbon' agate when the layers are straight & parallel.</p><p><br /></p><p>Without photos, I'm not even sure what author is writing about. From opening, I would have thought topic was the solid colored stone used for all those flip rings with a little diamond set in black stone on one side, often a cameo on the other. Then there's something about what to call it if a stone that is naturally black & white has been dyed to all black. Then we're off to druse crystal formations & the arbitrary nature of modern cameo prices. Just as well he did not explain nicolo.</p><p><br /></p><p>This bit mystifies me completely: 'Polished black onyx scratches fairly easily and the scratches are noticeable, which is why most carvings are matte-finished.' They are?</p><p><br /></p><p>This illustration shows some of what the JCK author is describing. The section labeled 'a' was left in its natural state; all others were subjected to one treatment or another, most involving saturation with a solution & heat. Different layers have different degrees of porosity, leading to the different results given by the same treatment.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]206492[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Grabbing an assortment from my Bacchus file, just to show that not all hardstone cameos are so tidy:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]206495[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]206496[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]206497[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]206498[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]206499[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Bronwen, post: 999655, member: 5833"]Author makes this statement, 'Pure black chalcedony is rare', but does not support it in any way. It may be out there somewhere, but it is safe to assume that any hardstone cameo with a black layer has been treated. Any time the color is deep & even, dye has to be suspected. I put some photos of cameos in untreated stone at the end for comparison. This, 'by definition, onyx should have straight parallel stripes of black and white', is true insofar as in the glyptics world 'onyx' is used in combination, not by itself. The non-white layer does not have to be black. The notion that the distinction between 'onyx' & 'agate' is whether or not the color layers are 'wavy, curved, or irregular' is an eccentric one; the material is routinely called 'banded' or 'ribbon' agate when the layers are straight & parallel. Without photos, I'm not even sure what author is writing about. From opening, I would have thought topic was the solid colored stone used for all those flip rings with a little diamond set in black stone on one side, often a cameo on the other. Then there's something about what to call it if a stone that is naturally black & white has been dyed to all black. Then we're off to druse crystal formations & the arbitrary nature of modern cameo prices. Just as well he did not explain nicolo. This bit mystifies me completely: 'Polished black onyx scratches fairly easily and the scratches are noticeable, which is why most carvings are matte-finished.' They are? This illustration shows some of what the JCK author is describing. The section labeled 'a' was left in its natural state; all others were subjected to one treatment or another, most involving saturation with a solution & heat. Different layers have different degrees of porosity, leading to the different results given by the same treatment. [ATTACH=full]206492[/ATTACH] Grabbing an assortment from my Bacchus file, just to show that not all hardstone cameos are so tidy: [ATTACH=full]206495[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]206496[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]206497[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]206498[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]206499[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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