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<p>[QUOTE="Bronwen, post: 999408, member: 5833"]The only one I would advise you against is the last one, the modern helmet shell piece, even though it is signed, unless she really really appeals to you and/or is really really cheap. I don't think she will hold value over time.</p><p><br /></p><p>First one is '<a href="https://cameotimes.com/index.php/reference/materials-guide?start=2" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://cameotimes.com/index.php/reference/materials-guide?start=2" rel="nofollow">hardstone</a>', the generic term used for chalcedony (microcrystalline quartz) when it is used for gem engraving. The word 'onyx' comes from the Greek for fingernail, which is what chalcedony looks like in its purest form. The color probably most people know best is cornelian/carnelian (orange - red); brown, especially when very dark, is called sard. A stone with layers of white & dark brown is 'sardonyx'. The word 'chalcedonyx' is used for a stone like this one:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]206485[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]206486[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Chalcedony does not occur in nature in black, it has to be dyed to that color; the Romans were already doing it. Although we use it that way all the time, it is not really accurate to call black chalcedony simply 'onyx'.</p><p><br /></p><p>Cameos of this type continue to be made, so it is difficult to say how old the one in the necklace is.</p><p><br /></p><p>The second one is ivory, probably French. See similar here:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.pinterest.com/cameotimescom/ivory-cameos-reliefs/mythological/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.pinterest.com/cameotimescom/ivory-cameos-reliefs/mythological/" rel="nofollow">https://www.pinterest.com/cameotimescom/ivory-cameos-reliefs/mythological/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>The coral Diana is probably somewhat earlier than the 40s, going by the type of safety clasp. From an investment point of view, this one is the best bet. The ivory presents the problem of what becomes of it in future, whether it can be resold or even given to someone who will be comfortable receiving it. Would you be comfortable wearing it now? My objection to the hardstone cameo is mainly that these 'noblewoman' types are common, without the allure of a mythological or historical identity to go with them.</p><p><br /></p><p>In the end it comes down to personal preference & finances.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Bronwen, post: 999408, member: 5833"]The only one I would advise you against is the last one, the modern helmet shell piece, even though it is signed, unless she really really appeals to you and/or is really really cheap. I don't think she will hold value over time. First one is '[URL='https://cameotimes.com/index.php/reference/materials-guide?start=2']hardstone[/URL]', the generic term used for chalcedony (microcrystalline quartz) when it is used for gem engraving. The word 'onyx' comes from the Greek for fingernail, which is what chalcedony looks like in its purest form. The color probably most people know best is cornelian/carnelian (orange - red); brown, especially when very dark, is called sard. A stone with layers of white & dark brown is 'sardonyx'. The word 'chalcedonyx' is used for a stone like this one: [ATTACH=full]206485[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]206486[/ATTACH] Chalcedony does not occur in nature in black, it has to be dyed to that color; the Romans were already doing it. Although we use it that way all the time, it is not really accurate to call black chalcedony simply 'onyx'. Cameos of this type continue to be made, so it is difficult to say how old the one in the necklace is. The second one is ivory, probably French. See similar here: [URL]https://www.pinterest.com/cameotimescom/ivory-cameos-reliefs/mythological/[/URL] The coral Diana is probably somewhat earlier than the 40s, going by the type of safety clasp. From an investment point of view, this one is the best bet. The ivory presents the problem of what becomes of it in future, whether it can be resold or even given to someone who will be comfortable receiving it. Would you be comfortable wearing it now? My objection to the hardstone cameo is mainly that these 'noblewoman' types are common, without the allure of a mythological or historical identity to go with them. In the end it comes down to personal preference & finances.[/QUOTE]
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