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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Bronwen, post: 9591823, member: 5833&quot;][ATTACH=full]464364[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>&quot;Mars&nbsp; Venus&quot; is the same in French and in German as it is in English.&nbsp; Only Italian is different (Marte Venere).</p><p><br /></p><p>I also see &#039;Hahn&#039;, but have a hard time seeing that basic H as the hand of the person who made the other capital letters.&nbsp; Then that maddening T or F, mystery mark (d?) and &#039;ar&#039;.&nbsp; Checking a list of gem engravers that was taken from Forrer, I see that there is a German Hahn, Philipp, born in Idar, working in Paris from 1914 on.&nbsp; Does it say &quot;Hahn Idar&quot;?</p><p><br /></p><p>The one hardstone cameo I have that has more than one number on the back, all but one scratched out, is German.&nbsp; I surmise quality control in a workshop setting where the master finishes a rough cut made by others.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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