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<p>[QUOTE="Bronwen, post: 764690, member: 5833"]'Lava' is a really vexed topic, <a href="https://cameotimes.com/index.php/reference/materials-guide?start=3" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://cameotimes.com/index.php/reference/materials-guide?start=3" rel="nofollow">as I say on my site</a>. The only ones I really trust to be entirely hand carved (not precluding the use of hand held motorized tools) volcanic material are ones like those at the start of the article, ones cut in material that would not be molded and/or cut in a way inconsistent with molding, including molding with finishing touches added by hand.</p><p><br /></p><p>On her site, Jan Campbell warns, in general terms, about fakes:</p><p><a href="http://www.cameoheaven.com/tutorial.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.cameoheaven.com/tutorial.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cameoheaven.com/tutorial.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>FAKE ALERT==IT HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION THERE ARE LAVA CAMEOS BEING MADE NOW THAT LOOK JUST LIKE THE OLD ONES.THEY ARE REPROS.SOME BEING MADE IN ENGLAND. BE CAREFUL IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR OLD LAVA PIECES.I RECENTLY PURCHASED WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A LAVA CAMEO.IT WAS TO HEAVY,TO SHINY AND WHEN LOOKED AT IT UNDER A LOUPE THERE WERE TINY BEADS WHERE THE POURED LIQUID HAD HARDENED OUTSIDE OF MOLD.THERE WERE NO CARVE MARKS AND THE SETTING LOOKED VERY OLD -EVEN HAD SOLDER IN DIFFERENT PLACES.PLEASE WATCH OUT FOR THESE.THEY ARE VERY HIGH RELIEF.3 WKS AFTER I SENT THIS BACK THE IDENTICAL CAMEO IN A DIFFERENT FRAME CAME UP ON EBAY FROM ANOTHER STATE.2 DIFFERENT FRAMES,2 DIFFERENT STATES BUT THE SAME HIGH RELIEF LAVA HEAD.A LADY FEEDING A BIRD GRAPES.PLEASE NOTE SOME OF THEM DO NOT HAVE THE BEADS.</p><p><br /></p><p>Right after this she warns about, I think, the cameos I refer to as Danbiere, because little boxes with the cameo on the lid say that on the bottom:</p><p><br /></p><p>THERE IS ANOTHER CAMEO BEING MADE IN ENGLAND.VERY HIGH RELIEF WOMEN WITH GRAPES IN HER HAIR-IT COMES IN PINK,WHITE,BLACK AND AMBER.IT IS USUALLY SET IN SILVER LOOKING MATERIAL.THIS IS VERY LARGE AND HIGH RELIEF.LOOKS VERY GOOD.THEY HIT THE MARKET AROUND 5 YRS AGO.THEY SELL IN ENGLAND FOR AROUND 50.00.I HAVE SEEN MANY OF THESE ON THE INTERNET.</p><p><br /></p><p>In some ways, I don't think of these as fakes, the way I don't think of Incolay as fake. it is what it is: a high quality simulant of carved stone. Dripstone cameos are also produced in molds; I don't think of them as fake either. If what might be called reconstituted lava is the material used now, little carving of solid chunks goes on anymore, then they are the legitimate lava cameos of our time. The only error is in describing them has hand carved.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Bronwen, post: 764690, member: 5833"]'Lava' is a really vexed topic, [URL='https://cameotimes.com/index.php/reference/materials-guide?start=3']as I say on my site[/URL]. The only ones I really trust to be entirely hand carved (not precluding the use of hand held motorized tools) volcanic material are ones like those at the start of the article, ones cut in material that would not be molded and/or cut in a way inconsistent with molding, including molding with finishing touches added by hand. On her site, Jan Campbell warns, in general terms, about fakes: [URL]http://www.cameoheaven.com/tutorial.html[/URL] FAKE ALERT==IT HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION THERE ARE LAVA CAMEOS BEING MADE NOW THAT LOOK JUST LIKE THE OLD ONES.THEY ARE REPROS.SOME BEING MADE IN ENGLAND. BE CAREFUL IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR OLD LAVA PIECES.I RECENTLY PURCHASED WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A LAVA CAMEO.IT WAS TO HEAVY,TO SHINY AND WHEN LOOKED AT IT UNDER A LOUPE THERE WERE TINY BEADS WHERE THE POURED LIQUID HAD HARDENED OUTSIDE OF MOLD.THERE WERE NO CARVE MARKS AND THE SETTING LOOKED VERY OLD -EVEN HAD SOLDER IN DIFFERENT PLACES.PLEASE WATCH OUT FOR THESE.THEY ARE VERY HIGH RELIEF.3 WKS AFTER I SENT THIS BACK THE IDENTICAL CAMEO IN A DIFFERENT FRAME CAME UP ON EBAY FROM ANOTHER STATE.2 DIFFERENT FRAMES,2 DIFFERENT STATES BUT THE SAME HIGH RELIEF LAVA HEAD.A LADY FEEDING A BIRD GRAPES.PLEASE NOTE SOME OF THEM DO NOT HAVE THE BEADS. Right after this she warns about, I think, the cameos I refer to as Danbiere, because little boxes with the cameo on the lid say that on the bottom: THERE IS ANOTHER CAMEO BEING MADE IN ENGLAND.VERY HIGH RELIEF WOMEN WITH GRAPES IN HER HAIR-IT COMES IN PINK,WHITE,BLACK AND AMBER.IT IS USUALLY SET IN SILVER LOOKING MATERIAL.THIS IS VERY LARGE AND HIGH RELIEF.LOOKS VERY GOOD.THEY HIT THE MARKET AROUND 5 YRS AGO.THEY SELL IN ENGLAND FOR AROUND 50.00.I HAVE SEEN MANY OF THESE ON THE INTERNET. In some ways, I don't think of these as fakes, the way I don't think of Incolay as fake. it is what it is: a high quality simulant of carved stone. Dripstone cameos are also produced in molds; I don't think of them as fake either. If what might be called reconstituted lava is the material used now, little carving of solid chunks goes on anymore, then they are the legitimate lava cameos of our time. The only error is in describing them has hand carved.[/QUOTE]
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