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<p>[QUOTE="Bronwen, post: 680183, member: 5833"]Interesting thing to make a little study of. 'Scratch' is the commonly used term, or sometimes incised, for the signatures applied with a sharp point.</p><p><br /></p><p>The ones you reasonably call solvent I call acid etched. Think this is not my coinage, that I picked up terminology already in use.</p><p><br /></p><p>Seashells are fundamentally calcium carbonate, easily dissolved by even acetic (vinegar) &, I would guess citric, acid. I can only guess at how it was done by how it tends to look. Perhaps brushed on free hand, allowed to sit undisturbed for some amount of time, then quickly washed off. They are rarely legible if you do not already know the name.</p><p><br /></p><p>Signing in this way seems to go with the period early in the 20th century, 1920s, I think, when there seems to have been a renewal of interest, an improvement in skill level, & adoption of a modernized style of imagery among Italian shell cutters. Giovanni Noto & the Scognamigilio family are known names associated with this revival & what they started continues today, although not always with an equal level of skill & sometimes with a sensibility that is so modernized it reminds me of Japanese anime, quite likely due to Japan's being a, maybe the, market for most of this work.</p><p><br /></p><p>If the style alone is not enough to tell you a piece is quite modern, the presence of the name cut into the front along with the design, very legibly & boldly, guarantees it. It is a very recent practice, but not out of keeping with tradition. The rare signed engraved gems from antiquity have the name engraved on the front & that was the norm. I doubt shell cameos were ever signed at all prior to the 19th century. On most this has been done by the scratch technique on the reverse. The Saulinis were unusual in routinely engraving on the front.</p><p><br /></p><p>I realize as I think about it that Luigi Rosi & Filippo Tignani, active in the second half of the 19th, were unusual in scratching into the back of their hardstone cameos what almost amounts to an advertisement: full name, sometimes the date, words Roma or 'engraver' (in Italian, French or English), & complete street address. Rosi always engraved his name on the obverse, in the tradition manner; Tignani signed in all kinds of ways & I have seen one with an engraved signature on the front, but seems to have preferred promoting himself on the back.</p><p><br /></p><p>The well named Sharpie method is something I don't see much, signatures applied this way may wear off, so perhaps done more often than we know. It strikes me as a lazy or hasty way of doing it. Can imagine some tourist visitor to a Neapolitan cameo workshop, buying a cameo, then asking Oh, can you sign it for me? I think your name accurately describes the method & therefore gives an idea of age.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]185724[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]185728[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Bronwen, post: 680183, member: 5833"]Interesting thing to make a little study of. 'Scratch' is the commonly used term, or sometimes incised, for the signatures applied with a sharp point. The ones you reasonably call solvent I call acid etched. Think this is not my coinage, that I picked up terminology already in use. Seashells are fundamentally calcium carbonate, easily dissolved by even acetic (vinegar) &, I would guess citric, acid. I can only guess at how it was done by how it tends to look. Perhaps brushed on free hand, allowed to sit undisturbed for some amount of time, then quickly washed off. They are rarely legible if you do not already know the name. Signing in this way seems to go with the period early in the 20th century, 1920s, I think, when there seems to have been a renewal of interest, an improvement in skill level, & adoption of a modernized style of imagery among Italian shell cutters. Giovanni Noto & the Scognamigilio family are known names associated with this revival & what they started continues today, although not always with an equal level of skill & sometimes with a sensibility that is so modernized it reminds me of Japanese anime, quite likely due to Japan's being a, maybe the, market for most of this work. If the style alone is not enough to tell you a piece is quite modern, the presence of the name cut into the front along with the design, very legibly & boldly, guarantees it. It is a very recent practice, but not out of keeping with tradition. The rare signed engraved gems from antiquity have the name engraved on the front & that was the norm. I doubt shell cameos were ever signed at all prior to the 19th century. On most this has been done by the scratch technique on the reverse. The Saulinis were unusual in routinely engraving on the front. I realize as I think about it that Luigi Rosi & Filippo Tignani, active in the second half of the 19th, were unusual in scratching into the back of their hardstone cameos what almost amounts to an advertisement: full name, sometimes the date, words Roma or 'engraver' (in Italian, French or English), & complete street address. Rosi always engraved his name on the obverse, in the tradition manner; Tignani signed in all kinds of ways & I have seen one with an engraved signature on the front, but seems to have preferred promoting himself on the back. The well named Sharpie method is something I don't see much, signatures applied this way may wear off, so perhaps done more often than we know. It strikes me as a lazy or hasty way of doing it. Can imagine some tourist visitor to a Neapolitan cameo workshop, buying a cameo, then asking Oh, can you sign it for me? I think your name accurately describes the method & therefore gives an idea of age. [ATTACH=full]185724[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]185728[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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