Featured CAMEOS: Show & Tell or Ask & Answer

Discussion in 'Jewelry' started by Bronwen, Dec 20, 2017.

  1. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    Goodness, that's lovely and it's in my neck of the woods! I've bought from DuMouchelle's before and usually check their offerings but haven't done so in a while.
    I had a bad selling experience with an item that I listed for sale in one of their auctions. It was a period WW2 poster by a collected poster artist, Otis Shepard. They listed it without using the artist's name, in the title or the description. Twice I asked that they add the artist name to the listing but they never did. Needless to say, it sold to a single bidder for only the opening bid price... which was one-quarter of its worth/estimate. And I hadn't had them use a reserve. :rage:
     
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  2. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    I've bought from them with no problem.....many moons ago..
     
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  3. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    That's an interesting one! Lots of detail and it's nice to see one framed.

    That is infuriating. I wouldn't use them again either after such an experience.
     
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  4. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    I couldn't find their Terms & Conditions anywhere. What do they accept for payment, etc.?*

    Interesting to see that this cameo came from a collection in Macomb Co. Not my idea of the Land of the Cultured.

    *Found under numerous paragraphs about shipping.
     
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  5. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    This one strikes me as very similar work, although not signed anywhere visible in the single photo. (Aside: how do sellers expect you to pay $8,000 for something based on 1 pic?)

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/115367299976

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  6. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    And a pic turned 90 degrees from true into the bargain. Oy. At least it's not blurry.
     
  7. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    Ughhh I love listings with 24 equally blurry photos that show the seller's dirty, cracked fingers in perfect focus but nothing else.

    Or the ones taken of a 1" cameo, but from space.

    Also the ones taken of every angle except straight-on.

    And never show the back.

    Or if you do, just a hyper close up of a blurry mark.

    Sorry. I have feelings about this. :banghead:
     
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  8. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Any joolie does. We've all run into it.
     
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  9. PepperAnna

    PepperAnna Well-Known Member

    A little more about the identity of the cameo carver Hahn that might be useful. Plus a very interesting little article about cameo carving in Idar-Oberstein. So maybe it was Rudolph or Carl or perhaps Phillip??

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    Or maybe this Hahn:
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  10. PepperAnna

    PepperAnna Well-Known Member


    I think that is a lovely cameo- I was eyeing it, too. I am going to bid on it. Maybe I'll get lucky! :):)

    Here is the excerpt from Forrer:
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    I found another Froulle cameo. I think this is the above listed cameo called "Adonis starts for the Hunt" in 1875. Froulle is easy to make out at the bottom of the cameo, but only the "R" from Varnier.
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  11. PepperAnna

    PepperAnna Well-Known Member

  12. PepperAnna

    PepperAnna Well-Known Member

    I was interested to see these 3 cameos and 1 intaglio. Russian in origin. They sold this week at some eyepopping prices. I don't know much about Russian cameos, so I was glad to do some research on them. There are more examples like these at the Hermitage Museum.

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    Oval carnelian intaglio depicting an allegory of the Navy surmounted by a standard engraved with the Russian motto "Everywhere with You", in a silver mount engraved in Russian "Cut by Count Fedor Petrovich Tolstoy in 1815". Russia, circa 1815.

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    two-layer, oval-shaped, depicting an antique-style bearded man in profile to the left. Kolyvan Manufactory, St. Petersburg, 19th century.

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    mounted in a gold frame (583 thousandths) with filigree motif, engraved on the back in Cyrillic "January 5, 1835, Barnauk" (town now called Barnaul). Russia, Mount Altai region, circa 1835. No apparent hallmark.

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    Round, two-layered Kolyvan jasper depicting Tsar Alexander I of Russia, in the guise of the deity Rodomysl, showing him in left profile in ancient Russian armor and carrying a shield finely carved with battle scenes and inscribed "1813 Leipzig". The back engraved in Cyrillic "Rodomysl from the ninth to the tenth century". Based on Fedor Petrovich Tolstoy's original model of 1814. Kolyvan Manufactory, St. Petersburg, first half of the 19th century.










     
  13. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    So do most of us....& we see enuf of that here as well.
    The one silver lining ......we've all picked up some lovely works, after looking at shitty photo's and poor descriptions.....when we knew exactly what we were looking at...that others passed on..!!;):happy:
     
  14. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    Hopefully, I am an exception! ;)
     
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  15. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    u bin here over 8 long years..... u r indeed ....exceptional !!!:happy::happy::happy:
     
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  16. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    I feel your pain!
     
  17. PepperAnna

    PepperAnna Well-Known Member

    So true! It is amazing how often this happens.:arghh::banghead:
     
  18. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    As komo would say, U R. My dad, who would not have understood my interest in cameos, much less the amount of money I have spent on them, moved from Oakland to Macomb after he remarried. In 2020 it kept making the news as the epitome of Trump Country.
     
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  19. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    I know... it was rather an un-nerving time for a non-Trumper like me, I was/am definitely in the minority. Luckily, I do have a few like-minded friends in the area. :)
     
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  20. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    you'll need a whack more this time around !!!!!!!!!!!:eek:
     
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