Featured CAMEOS: Show & Tell or Ask & Answer

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  1. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

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  2. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Thank you, Holly. The article is riddled with inaccuracies, but the photo of ultrasonically worked shell is very interesting. I'm not home at the moment, but want to check the Miller book to see if this is quite correct: "In her 1991 book, “Cameos: Old & New,” Anna M. Miller wrote that at that time it was estimated that as many as eighty-percent of cameos were being machine-cut by ultrasound in Germany and Japan." The German cameos would be the hardstone ones.
     
  3. KSW

    KSW Well-Known Member

    Gosh,I hope I haven’t opened a can of worms here!. Nothing wrong with ultrasonic as long as the buyer knows that’s what it is and pays accordingly. The issue as I see it would be if it is then sold on as hand carved.
    There is a similar problem with sellers glazing labels onto blank old pots such as Keiller Marmalade pots and then selling them. Nothing wrong as long as it’s declared but they are then being sold on to the unwary as the genuine article.
     
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  4. fridolina

    fridolina Well-Known Member

    @Bronwen I’m considering buying a cameo very similar to the one on your avatar. To me it looks like the Capitoline Aphrodite/Venus but I was wondering if you could tell me a bit more about it.
     
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  5. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Not a can of worms, a very good question. I just read Anna Miller's section on ultrasonic cutting & she is speaking strictly about hardstone cameos. The figure of 80% was the estimate of one of her German informants. By contrast, she says the only electrical tool used by shell cutters is a dental drill. Shell cameo manufacturers will make the same design again & again, but pieces will have the variations natural to hand work. The German & Japanese ultrasonic pieces are cut using a template, so are identical.

    Think the people buying ultrasonic hardstone are buying what they like at an affordable price & are not overly concerned with the production method.
     
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  6. Bronwen

    Bronwen Well-Known Member

    Think she is the Capitoline Venus. Mine is by Filippo Tignani, rectangular, set in a ring.
     
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  8. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    An 18k gold pendant for 200 Euro is a pretty nice deal. The cameo? It's a nice frame! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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  9. Bronwen

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    A modern oval cameo brooch in white metal frame
    Auctioneer's estimate 20 GBP - 30 GBP
    Additional fees apply 27.54% Inc.VAT/sales tax
    Hammer price 130 GBP

    'Danbiere' strikes again.
     
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  10. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    In its defense, it's pretty. Sometimes people pay for Pretty.
     
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  11. Bronwen

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    These seem to be virtually irresistible. Even when correctly described they still easily sell for $100+.

    Love the way auctioneer used 'modern' as a euphemism for 'artificial'.
     
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  12. fridolina

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  14. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

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  15. fridolina

    fridolina Well-Known Member

    I’ll inspect it & report back.
     
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  16. Bronwen

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    As Miller describes it, based on info provided by a maker of the equipment, the whole process is similar to sandblasting, with an abrasive being what is actually in contact with the stone surface, leaving a matte surface.
     
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  17. fridolina

    fridolina Well-Known Member

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  18. Bronwen

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    Awww. Surprised they did not go higher. Because of screwbacks I suppose. I agree the cameos predate the findings. They're lovely little things, worthy of being bezel set in gold & suspended as pendant earrings. Unusual to see 2 shell cameos so well matched.
     
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  19. fridolina

    fridolina Well-Known Member

    My Capitoline Venus has arrived.:rolleyes:

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    I know, she has some scuff marks but I can’t see them without magnification and she was so reasonably priced that I couldn’t resist.
    The cameo was listed as a doublet but it’s made out of a single stone. There are also some natural veins in the stone which I don’t find distracting because with my eyesight I can hardly see them.:joyful:
     
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  20. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

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