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<p>[QUOTE="Bronwen, post: 768228, member: 5833"]We've turned up so much great stuff here, all of it unexplored anywhere else in the literature as far as I know, I don't want to lose track of it. Want to make a Word doc that captures the findings & evidence, so was going back over it all. Because I am currently bidding on a Lamant piece (cross your fingers for me!), I got snagged at the part of our discussion concerning that name & whether or not there were more than one person with that name cutting cameos, and whether the entry that lists a business 'Lamant - Julliot' at a different address than a plain Lamant in the same list if for: the same Lamant, doing business with someone named Julliot; another person, with the hyphenatted surname Lamant-Julliot; the same person, who had a hyphenated surname, which was not always recorded in business directories such as the Almanach, & had establishments at 2 different addresses.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.antiquers.com/attachments/graveurs-1855-a-d-jpg.185773/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>The only thing I feel clear about at this point is that the Lamant-Julliot of Paris is a hyphenated surname, not a a partnership.</p><p><br /></p><p>This </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>is a notice of bankruptcy for an A.-V. Juliot, <i>dit Lamant</i>, called/known as Lamant. It clearly ties in with the tantalizing genealogy site snippet, mangled by OCR, maybe a marriage notice:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Guessing 'Amsnd-Vietor' is Armand-Victor, also a <i>fabricant de camees</i>. Perhaps this is the father of Julien, who made what had been a nickname, Lamant (l'amant = the lover) into a combined name so people would still recognize the family connection? Is the Lamant Juliot found in England a few years on the same person? A coincidence? We have one Lamant signature in cursive that seems not to be by the same hand & is the only one seen so far when many of the other have appeared on the market. This lone specimen Armand-Victor?</p><p><br /></p><p>Then there is the nacrier. We had this with Mouhe, as well:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www.antiquers.com/attachments/temp02-jpg.184751/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>The bankrupt Armand-Victor was at Philippeaux*, 36; Mouhe, nacrier, was at Phelippeaux, 33. Mouhe, the graveur en camees, had 2 locations. Is the Mouhe who sold objets en nacre at Chapon, 31, the same guy?</p><p><br /></p><p>*This spelling seems to be a typo. His hearing date is announced on the <a href="http://data.decalog.net/enap1/liens/Gazette/ENAP_GAZETTE_TRIBUNAUX_18500623.pdf" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://data.decalog.net/enap1/liens/Gazette/ENAP_GAZETTE_TRIBUNAUX_18500623.pdf" rel="nofollow">last page of this Gazette</a>:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]190309[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Take your pick.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Yes. The photo with the pin out of the way was added at my request. In exchange, I sent him this:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/mZoAAOSwDLhc~~yw/s-l1600.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Bronwen, post: 768228, member: 5833"]We've turned up so much great stuff here, all of it unexplored anywhere else in the literature as far as I know, I don't want to lose track of it. Want to make a Word doc that captures the findings & evidence, so was going back over it all. Because I am currently bidding on a Lamant piece (cross your fingers for me!), I got snagged at the part of our discussion concerning that name & whether or not there were more than one person with that name cutting cameos, and whether the entry that lists a business 'Lamant - Julliot' at a different address than a plain Lamant in the same list if for: the same Lamant, doing business with someone named Julliot; another person, with the hyphenatted surname Lamant-Julliot; the same person, who had a hyphenated surname, which was not always recorded in business directories such as the Almanach, & had establishments at 2 different addresses. [IMG]https://www.antiquers.com/attachments/graveurs-1855-a-d-jpg.185773/[/IMG] The only thing I feel clear about at this point is that the Lamant-Julliot of Paris is a hyphenated surname, not a a partnership. This is a notice of bankruptcy for an A.-V. Juliot, [I]dit Lamant[/I], called/known as Lamant. It clearly ties in with the tantalizing genealogy site snippet, mangled by OCR, maybe a marriage notice: Guessing 'Amsnd-Vietor' is Armand-Victor, also a [I]fabricant de camees[/I]. Perhaps this is the father of Julien, who made what had been a nickname, Lamant (l'amant = the lover) into a combined name so people would still recognize the family connection? Is the Lamant Juliot found in England a few years on the same person? A coincidence? We have one Lamant signature in cursive that seems not to be by the same hand & is the only one seen so far when many of the other have appeared on the market. This lone specimen Armand-Victor? Then there is the nacrier. We had this with Mouhe, as well: [IMG]https://www.antiquers.com/attachments/temp02-jpg.184751/[/IMG] The bankrupt Armand-Victor was at Philippeaux*, 36; Mouhe, nacrier, was at Phelippeaux, 33. Mouhe, the graveur en camees, had 2 locations. Is the Mouhe who sold objets en nacre at Chapon, 31, the same guy? *This spelling seems to be a typo. His hearing date is announced on the [URL='http://data.decalog.net/enap1/liens/Gazette/ENAP_GAZETTE_TRIBUNAUX_18500623.pdf']last page of this Gazette[/URL]: [ATTACH=full]190309[/ATTACH] Take your pick. Yes. The photo with the pin out of the way was added at my request. In exchange, I sent him this: [IMG]https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/mZoAAOSwDLhc~~yw/s-l1600.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
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