Cameo Signature Help Needed

Maybe his cousin Schmuel?

 

I grant you the "o" has an incomplete top, but it's Schmoll all the way.

Maybe he let one of his kids sign this one.

 

We'll eventually find out. She will be a while getting here, but won the auction:

 

Congrats on the win!

But I'm already convinced.

 

Oh, I am too. Wouldn't have bid as much if not. When it's all added up, she's going to cost me silly money. Fortunately, I have others that I all but stole to offset such madness.

 

This totally feels like a Mouhé to me, but I can only make the last two letters work.



Please tell me to stop forcing what isn't there. Or tell me that Mouhé was drunk that night.

 

@Jivvy What do you think of this? Schmoll? I've cropped & rotated but left pic otherwise unaltered so you can do your stuff:



This is the obverse:

 

Geez. It's like an over-exposed picture of the sun.

Don't expect much.

 

Does the seller know it's signed and that pic is the best he/she could do?

I don't think it's Schmoll... but to know for sure, either you're going to have to buy it or send @KSW to their house to take pics.

Not sure this is helpful. The green arrow points to what could be a random scratch, but feels intentional... but everything in the shadow of the pin is pretty much a blow out. There is data there, but probably need NASA software to reveal it.

 

Was just about to put this up in the Show & Tell thread as part of a post. Will add it here for comparison:



Quite right, not Silz/Schmoll.

 

Probably did whole listing by smart phone. Minimal info, no notice of signature, price already over the top.

 

@Jivvy @bluumz

Grist for Jivvy's mill:



A couple have something else written in addition to 'Ann'.

 

And here's bluumz's Mazeppa:

 

Please stop forcing what isn't there. Although I do see how it gestalts that way at first glance.

 

Oh yes, when KSW posted more pics, it changed everything.

Still staring at it.

 

Free association time. Thoughts on what this might say? It is the portrait of an older woman. Name could be hers or the cutter's.

 

m a Nichols 1850 or 1830 for my

 

I see much the same: M A-or-U Nichols 1850.

 

@Jivvy She's here. Don't have the light now to photo the cleaned up obverse, but overhead fluorescent does a good job with signature. Not at all sure what the second word is, not even certain which way is the right way up. There's a faint scratching near the bottom I think says 40; you can see the 0.



Have a new Schmoll too, of the Sll type. I seem to have more of those than of 'Silz', even though latter is much more common.

 

In my head, this one will always be "Zignani."

lol... up or down... wow, second word is tough.

Oh, and on the previous subject, "Anne" is quite elusive. I keep thinking I've found a name (not Anne), and then poof! It turns back to scribbles.