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<p>[QUOTE="Lulululu, post: 41980, member: 431"]When 'fun' is meanspirited, it's not fun but simply mean. Based on the responses, I wasn't the only one here who thought so. Neither did ebay security.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's an example of an auction I found yesterday that was wrong in a myriad of ways, but it managed to be funny: </p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-LEGO-FROZEN-41062-ELSAS-SPARKLING-ICE-CASTLE-/331423942691?pt=Building_Toys_US&hash=item4d2a680823" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-LEGO-FROZEN-41062-ELSAS-SPARKLING-ICE-CASTLE-/331423942691?pt=Building_Toys_US&hash=item4d2a680823" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-LEGO-FROZEN-41062-ELSAS-SPARKLING-ICE-CASTLE-/331423942691?pt=Building_Toys_US&hash=item4d2a680823</a> </p><p>I did not report itfor these reasons: It had already closed when I saw it, had no potential of harming anyone and the sellers's rude response to questions were not threatening nor directed at an individual. </p><p><br /></p><p>Reporting an ebay listing like this is a form of social responsiblity, whether you appreciate it or not. The least of it is that ebay set up what they call the ebay community with the intent that we be civilized and one way they ensure this is by asking us to report abuses - that request can be found on every auction page. I'm not a fan of everything ebay, but I'm a big fan of their rules of decorum, which have proven to work very well since ebay started </p><p><br /></p><p>But I have another reason. Life can turn, not on a dime, but on a molecule. I was once that molecule. 25 years ago, I commented on the blueness of the sky, to a stranger who was walking past my little millinery shop. She stopped, looked at the sky and then at my shop and asked the question she should have been asking someone other than her parents for years. "Can you make a living at this?" I shrugged "well, I do." You would never in a million years have thought this woman was in trouble - I sure didn't. But two years later I ran into her at a wholesale show and learned that I had interrupted her just 5 minutes away from suicide. FIVE minutes, and her demeanor was not what one might identify as 'suicidal'; just terse. I let her grill me about my business, sold her some antique ribbons, and sent her on her merry way. Instead of turning on the gas that day, she went home and researched careers working with ribbons. She became a sales rep for a ribbon company and became a very happy person. </p><p><br /></p><p>I think of that incident every single day. Every day I am newly humbled by it. I second guess actions I took before that day. I try to live my life so that I never need to second guess my actions since that day. I notice signs I didn't before. I take actions when I see fit and I'm sure not going to apologize for them. </p><p><br /></p><p>If this auction was written by the woman in the picture, then it was a cry for help. If she was the victim of ebay cyber bullying, than that calls for action too. Human trafficking is no joke, even when it is presented as a joke, and for that alone, it deserves to be shut down. There isn't a great deal a casual observer can do but suggest the auction be shut down, but sometimes, I've learned, that is enough. So I did it. </p><p><br /></p><p>I'm pretty put off about being asked to defend that action not once, but twice, especially since I was following ebay's protocol, which, as near as I can tell, are not against those of this forum - correct? I also do not appreciate your suggestion that I came here to make trouble or that I don't fit in. If that is the case, I think it should come from a moderator. From your comment to me and to the member who agreed with me, I'd say you're the one looking for trouble. If this is your custom and no one is willing to deal with it, than maybe I don't belong here. </p><p><br /></p><p>That is all I have to say on the subject, and I'll thank you to drop it and not to look for another to replace it. </p><p><br /></p><p>What I'd prefer to discuss is what wonderfully intelligent, witty and downright funny I've found most of the members here to be. I've enjoyed trying to identify some objects and sharing what I know about others.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lulululu, post: 41980, member: 431"]When 'fun' is meanspirited, it's not fun but simply mean. Based on the responses, I wasn't the only one here who thought so. Neither did ebay security. Here's an example of an auction I found yesterday that was wrong in a myriad of ways, but it managed to be funny: [URL]http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-LEGO-FROZEN-41062-ELSAS-SPARKLING-ICE-CASTLE-/331423942691?pt=Building_Toys_US&hash=item4d2a680823[/URL] I did not report itfor these reasons: It had already closed when I saw it, had no potential of harming anyone and the sellers's rude response to questions were not threatening nor directed at an individual. Reporting an ebay listing like this is a form of social responsiblity, whether you appreciate it or not. The least of it is that ebay set up what they call the ebay community with the intent that we be civilized and one way they ensure this is by asking us to report abuses - that request can be found on every auction page. I'm not a fan of everything ebay, but I'm a big fan of their rules of decorum, which have proven to work very well since ebay started But I have another reason. Life can turn, not on a dime, but on a molecule. I was once that molecule. 25 years ago, I commented on the blueness of the sky, to a stranger who was walking past my little millinery shop. She stopped, looked at the sky and then at my shop and asked the question she should have been asking someone other than her parents for years. "Can you make a living at this?" I shrugged "well, I do." You would never in a million years have thought this woman was in trouble - I sure didn't. But two years later I ran into her at a wholesale show and learned that I had interrupted her just 5 minutes away from suicide. FIVE minutes, and her demeanor was not what one might identify as 'suicidal'; just terse. I let her grill me about my business, sold her some antique ribbons, and sent her on her merry way. Instead of turning on the gas that day, she went home and researched careers working with ribbons. She became a sales rep for a ribbon company and became a very happy person. I think of that incident every single day. Every day I am newly humbled by it. I second guess actions I took before that day. I try to live my life so that I never need to second guess my actions since that day. I notice signs I didn't before. I take actions when I see fit and I'm sure not going to apologize for them. If this auction was written by the woman in the picture, then it was a cry for help. If she was the victim of ebay cyber bullying, than that calls for action too. Human trafficking is no joke, even when it is presented as a joke, and for that alone, it deserves to be shut down. There isn't a great deal a casual observer can do but suggest the auction be shut down, but sometimes, I've learned, that is enough. So I did it. I'm pretty put off about being asked to defend that action not once, but twice, especially since I was following ebay's protocol, which, as near as I can tell, are not against those of this forum - correct? I also do not appreciate your suggestion that I came here to make trouble or that I don't fit in. If that is the case, I think it should come from a moderator. From your comment to me and to the member who agreed with me, I'd say you're the one looking for trouble. If this is your custom and no one is willing to deal with it, than maybe I don't belong here. That is all I have to say on the subject, and I'll thank you to drop it and not to look for another to replace it. What I'd prefer to discuss is what wonderfully intelligent, witty and downright funny I've found most of the members here to be. I've enjoyed trying to identify some objects and sharing what I know about others.[/QUOTE]
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