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<p>[QUOTE="Any Jewelry, post: 4335406, member: 2844"]Hi Mat, he is lovely, and yes, Balinese. Could we see what he is holding in his left hand?</p><p>I suspect he is a (deified?) former ruler of one of the Balinese kingdoms, which means difficult to identify if you are not from that particular part of Bali. He could be mid-20th century.</p><p><br /></p><p>Although the Bali Aga minority, the 'real Balinese', is considered tribal by some, most of Bali is a Javanese influenced mix of people from several nations, and non-tribal. The Balinese art we see in the West is nearly all made by these Javanese influenced Balinese, so not tribal.</p><p><br /></p><p>Tribal is a difficult term when referring to Indonesian cultures. Firstly, the Indonesian language doesn't differentiate between tribal and non-tribal.</p><p>A general rule for Westerners when discussing Indonesian culture is that the historic or presently recognized states, so kingdoms, sultanates, and princely states, are not tribal. That means most of the population of Indonesia.</p><p>Terminology for the non-former state Indonesians is also difficult, because there are people who live in family groups, without a tribal structure.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Any Jewelry, post: 4335406, member: 2844"]Hi Mat, he is lovely, and yes, Balinese. Could we see what he is holding in his left hand? I suspect he is a (deified?) former ruler of one of the Balinese kingdoms, which means difficult to identify if you are not from that particular part of Bali. He could be mid-20th century. Although the Bali Aga minority, the 'real Balinese', is considered tribal by some, most of Bali is a Javanese influenced mix of people from several nations, and non-tribal. The Balinese art we see in the West is nearly all made by these Javanese influenced Balinese, so not tribal. Tribal is a difficult term when referring to Indonesian cultures. Firstly, the Indonesian language doesn't differentiate between tribal and non-tribal. A general rule for Westerners when discussing Indonesian culture is that the historic or presently recognized states, so kingdoms, sultanates, and princely states, are not tribal. That means most of the population of Indonesia. Terminology for the non-former state Indonesians is also difficult, because there are people who live in family groups, without a tribal structure.[/QUOTE]
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