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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;DragonflyWink, post: 137714, member: 111&quot;]The hallmarks on the ashtray have already been discussed, and what you are showing of the cup is multiple shots of the engravings (the plumed helmet is a family crest) - these have nothing to do with the maker, you need to look over the piece for stamped marks, on a Canadian or American piece, would expect to see them under the base, sometimes even deep in the center where the base is attached to the cup.&nbsp; Agree with Brad that both have some value beyond the intrinsic, but the cup is particularly interesting...</p><p><br /></p><p>~Cheryl[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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