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<p>[QUOTE="Ex Libris, post: 9546333, member: 14916"]Recently I bought a framed copper engraving, that was advertised as a 19th century print. I immediately saw this was probably quite bit older (late 16th or early 17th century).</p><p><br /></p><p>This is how the print looked in it's frame.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]454600[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Luckily the engraving is signed so I could quite easily figure out who the makers were:</p><p><br /></p><p>Maerten de Vos - inv(entor), designer</p><p>Nicolaes de Bruyn - f(ecit), engraver</p><p>Assuerus van Londerseel - excudit, publisher</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]454601[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>This is the complete print, I really love all the details! It is the depiction of the element Water (aqua).</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]454602[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>This copper engraving is a part of a series of 4 elements:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]454603[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I did not find any of these prints for sale, but different museums have this in their collection.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/P_1937-0915-340" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/P_1937-0915-340" rel="nofollow">British Museum</a> London</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/nl/zoeken/objecten?q=aqua+bruyn&p=45&ps=12&st=Objects&ii=11#/RP-P-OB-16.153,539" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/nl/zoeken/objecten?q=aqua+bruyn&p=45&ps=12&st=Objects&ii=11#/RP-P-OB-16.153,539" rel="nofollow">Rijksmuseum</a> Amsterdam</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/nl/zoeken/objecten?q=%22Element+Water%22&p=2&ps=12&st=Objects&ii=0#/RP-P-1897-A-19550A,12" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/nl/zoeken/objecten?q=%22Element+Water%22&p=2&ps=12&st=Objects&ii=0#/RP-P-1897-A-19550A,12" rel="nofollow">Rijksmuseum</a> Amsterdam</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://kk.haum-bs.de/?id=bruyn-n-d-ab3-0057" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://kk.haum-bs.de/?id=bruyn-n-d-ab3-0057" rel="nofollow">Herzog Anton Ulrich Museum</a> Braunschweig</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://sammlungenonline.albertina.at/?query=Inventarnummer=[DG77483]&showtype=record#/query/fd1ddd4f-cd38-47d7-aad7-e3a59ee7968a" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://sammlungenonline.albertina.at/?query=Inventarnummer=[DG77483]&showtype=record#/query/fd1ddd4f-cd38-47d7-aad7-e3a59ee7968a" rel="nofollow">Albertina Museum </a>Vienna</p><p><br /></p><p>None of the museums issues an exact date of the prints. They must have been printed somewhere between 1580 and 1650.</p><p><br /></p><p>I noticed some differences between the few examples I found in the museums and some mentioned a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_(printmaking)" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_(printmaking)" rel="nofollow">state</a>. Some of the prints have a text under de engraving and the name of the publisher seem te have been erased.</p><p><br /></p><p>The text (not on my copy).</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]454610[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><i>They have ceased to dwell in bright waters, the wave of ships and ships speeding through the sky, driving the kingdoms of the heavens.</i></p><p><br /></p><p>As a complete amateur in old prints I tried to reconstruct a story of the different states:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]454606[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Is there anyone here on the forum that could confirm my thinking process on the different states? Is this logical anyway? This is the first time I tried to dig down so deep into a single print. </p><p><br /></p><p>Thank you for your help <img src="styles/default/xenforo/smilies/smile.png" class="mceSmilie" alt=":)" unselectable="on" />.</p><p><br /></p><p>BTW: this print is marked a not suited for children (by <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/RenaissanceArt/comments/16mpmzf/aqua_water_by_nicolaes_de_bruyn/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.reddit.com/r/RenaissanceArt/comments/16mpmzf/aqua_water_by_nicolaes_de_bruyn/" rel="nofollow">Reddit </a>for example - NSFW). If it is against the forum rules, please remove this thread.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ex Libris, post: 9546333, member: 14916"]Recently I bought a framed copper engraving, that was advertised as a 19th century print. I immediately saw this was probably quite bit older (late 16th or early 17th century). This is how the print looked in it's frame. [ATTACH=full]454600[/ATTACH] Luckily the engraving is signed so I could quite easily figure out who the makers were: Maerten de Vos - inv(entor), designer Nicolaes de Bruyn - f(ecit), engraver Assuerus van Londerseel - excudit, publisher [ATTACH=full]454601[/ATTACH] This is the complete print, I really love all the details! It is the depiction of the element Water (aqua). [ATTACH=full]454602[/ATTACH] This copper engraving is a part of a series of 4 elements: [ATTACH=full]454603[/ATTACH] I did not find any of these prints for sale, but different museums have this in their collection. [URL='https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/P_1937-0915-340']British Museum[/URL] London [URL='https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/nl/zoeken/objecten?q=aqua+bruyn&p=45&ps=12&st=Objects&ii=11#/RP-P-OB-16.153,539']Rijksmuseum[/URL] Amsterdam [URL='https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/nl/zoeken/objecten?q=%22Element+Water%22&p=2&ps=12&st=Objects&ii=0#/RP-P-1897-A-19550A,12']Rijksmuseum[/URL] Amsterdam [URL='http://kk.haum-bs.de/?id=bruyn-n-d-ab3-0057']Herzog Anton Ulrich Museum[/URL] Braunschweig [URL='https://sammlungenonline.albertina.at/?query=Inventarnummer=[DG77483]&showtype=record#/query/fd1ddd4f-cd38-47d7-aad7-e3a59ee7968a']Albertina Museum [/URL]Vienna None of the museums issues an exact date of the prints. They must have been printed somewhere between 1580 and 1650. I noticed some differences between the few examples I found in the museums and some mentioned a [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_(printmaking)']state[/URL]. Some of the prints have a text under de engraving and the name of the publisher seem te have been erased. The text (not on my copy). [ATTACH=full]454610[/ATTACH] [I]They have ceased to dwell in bright waters, the wave of ships and ships speeding through the sky, driving the kingdoms of the heavens.[/I] As a complete amateur in old prints I tried to reconstruct a story of the different states: [ATTACH=full]454606[/ATTACH] Is there anyone here on the forum that could confirm my thinking process on the different states? Is this logical anyway? This is the first time I tried to dig down so deep into a single print. Thank you for your help :). BTW: this print is marked a not suited for children (by [URL='https://www.reddit.com/r/RenaissanceArt/comments/16mpmzf/aqua_water_by_nicolaes_de_bruyn/']Reddit [/URL]for example - NSFW). If it is against the forum rules, please remove this thread.[/QUOTE]
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