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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Mill Cove Treasures, post: 279930, member: 60&quot;]I do not think that is water gilding.&nbsp; It may have been oil gilded or it was painted.&nbsp; Most of the time, on older or vintage frames, the paint was bronze paint and it gets darker with age.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>I just pulled out some sample practice boards from when took a gilding class and did my own gilding. I restored old frames.&nbsp; All of these are for water gilding.</p><p><br /></p><p>The two boards on the right are sample boards used to test the clay/rouge and the gold.&nbsp; Six to eight layers of gesso have to be applied and then sanded before the red clay can be applied.&nbsp; Gesso is made from rabbit skin glue and whiting. The clay gets three layers and then sanded. Then the size is applied before the gold can be applied. Water gilding can be burnished to a high gloss like the small frame in the center.&nbsp; Oil gilding and paint can&#039;t be burnished.&nbsp; Water gilding is a very labor intensive, time consuming process and expensive process.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]89213[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>This is why I asked to see the edges.&nbsp; Here are the edges that show the gesso, the clay and the gold.[ATTACH=full]89217[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]89218[/ATTACH]&nbsp; </p><p>This is the edge of the sample board with just layers of gesso that has been sanded.&nbsp; No clay, no gold.&nbsp; The white is the actual thickness of the gesso.&nbsp; You won&#039;t see that thick layer of gesso on oil gilding or bronze painted frames.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]89219[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>I have some books and notes about which products to use for stripping.&nbsp; If it is water gilded, you can&#039;t use anything that has a water base because you will soften the rabbit skin glue under the gold.&nbsp; I will try to post later tonight with the notes but I may not have time to get to them today.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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