Featured Any/All Info Appreciated British Medals

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  1. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    I feel you !! ;)
    I hate it when service medals.....specially the highest Honours , get away from a family.........but over time...it happens a lot !
     
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  2. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    The Indian medal is the Indian Independence medal 1947 not police, it should be inscribed around the edge.
    Looking at these it appears you have a set along with a set of miniatures too is that correct.
     
  3. reader

    reader Well-Known Member

    Me too and no clue how these ended up in a yard sale in the US. The couple were seniors but not UK and too young to have served in WWll.

    BTW you guys are really amazing not only in your knowledge but more so your willingness to share but if nothing else you made me play with my phone camera and I now have learned that I can magnify. Had no clue. Here’s the edge writing. It seems to be the only one with edge engraving. IMG_1261.jpeg IMG_1260.jpeg IMG_1257.jpeg
     
  4. reader

    reader Well-Known Member

    Engraved Charles Greig…
     
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  5. komokwa

    komokwa The Truth is out there...!

    those are good clear shots.......... YAY !!!!

    ........teach an older... horse , new tricks !!!!:happy::happy:
     
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  6. reader

    reader Well-Known Member

    Here they all are spread out. IMG_1262.jpeg
     
  7. reader

    reader Well-Known Member

    Yes but only the one large medal is engraved. I’ve learned more about UK WWll medals in the last hour than I have in my 7 decades prior. TY
     
  8. reader

    reader Well-Known Member

    Can you believe? LOL…
     
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  9. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    Whilst we are showing off medals, here are some from my collection, including my Dads WWII and some personal ones of mine.


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  10. the blacksmith

    the blacksmith Well-Known Member

    The Independance medal is hardly likely to have the King's head on it is it!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Police_Medal

    The medal on the extreme right is the Indian Independance medal.

    Great selection of medals there DD. have you researched them?
     
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  11. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    I think we were at crossed purposes, I meant the extreme right.
    There are miniatures in with the full size medals and it gets confusing.

    Yes all WWI, Boer War medals have been researched and catalogued.
    I'm going to need another plan chest drawer to use for displaying my medals, some coins will have to be moved.
     
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  12. the blacksmith

    the blacksmith Well-Known Member

    yes.it seems like that!

    WWI MM's fetch a premium these days, as do the DCM's. And the South Africa campaigns are extremely interesting.
    For my part, I have been meaning to acquire a WWI trio and 'dead man's penny' to research and suitably mount. That way at least, another soldier won't be forgotten.
    It is great that you have researched these, as too many so called collectors obtain them, but don't really realise their significance or delve further into the story that each medal has.

    Regarding the medals in the original post, it should be no problem to research the original recipient of these and find out the background story to them.
     
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  13. reader

    reader Well-Known Member

    I actually nosed around a bit but couldn’t find anything on the recipient. I do appreciate everyone’s contribution and glad I instigated a discussion that led Davey to post his amazing collection!
     
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  14. reader

    reader Well-Known Member

    Over time pretty much everything can get away from families…I’m always amazed at what the children of passed parents don’t want. It’s staggering what shows up at some estate sales.
     
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  15. the blacksmith

    the blacksmith Well-Known Member

    You will probably have to contact the Mumbai police to get details of this man, as they will almost certainly have the information that you require. Not everything is online, and sometimes things still need to be done the old fashioned with personal contact! Failing that, the Public Records Office at Kew, West London, will have his details.
     
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  16. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    I had the dead man’s penny for my great uncle, who went down on HMS Crecy. Gave it to my cousins son, who’s the one who’s custodian of family history.
     
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  17. reader

    reader Well-Known Member

    This has really been an interesting discussion. I learned so much and will report back if I learn anything else. Many thanks to all!
     
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  18. the blacksmith

    the blacksmith Well-Known Member

    A tragic event where one of the three cruisers, HMS Crecy, Hogue and Aboukir, having been torpedoed by the U9 under the command of Otto Wedigen, was thought by the other two cruisers to have struck a mine, and so they stopped to pick up survivors, giving Wedigen the chance to sink them as well. All three ships were thus lost in just a few minutes, along with some 1400 of their crews.

    It is wonderful that your great uncle's 'dead mans penny' is still in the family, as all too often they are for sale, and unless it is a rare RFC, RNAS or First Day of the Somme etc., they usually fetch just £75. Not much for a mans life, and such a pity that the family for, whatever reason, didn't keep it safe like you have.
     
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  19. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    My grandfather, who I never knew as he died when I was six months old, treasured it, as well as other things. Those went to my Pa, including grandfathers silver Fire Brigade medal. All of it has gone to the cousins son. He too values them and I do so agree that it’s deeply sad when families don’t or can’t.

    I’ve memorabilia related to the theatrical side of my family which will go to a museum probably, I’d hate them to be broken up.
     
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  20. Figtree3

    Figtree3 What would you do if you weren't afraid?

    I found an entry related to Charles Greig in a database of archives of India. He was Sub-Inspector at the time, so this was not the same medal that you own, @reader .

    https://www.abhilekh-patal.in/jspui/handle/123456789/884211

    Award of the Indian Police Medal for gallantry to Charles Greig, Sub-Inspector of the Bombay City Police.

    Department Home
    Branch Police (Honours)
    From Year / Date
    (YYYY-MM-DD) 1940
    To Year / Date
    (YYYY-MM-DD) 1940
    Identifier PR_000001035963
    File No. Progs., Nos. 39(16)-H, 1940
     
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