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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Ladybranch, post: 30501, member: 44&quot;]As to the garter thing, I got a question for Bear or anyone up on British stuff and such. Is there any special permission a British company needs in order to use a garter as their logo, trademark? I suspect there isn&#039;t, but as The Order of the Garter is an honor bestowed, selected, invested or whatever by the Sovereign, I thought possibly the symbol in Great Britain couldn&#039;t be used willy nilly.</p><p><br /></p><p>I don&#039;t think??? the garter logo (a garter topped by a crown) for the Cunard line has a SS or RMS because it is a company and not a specific ship. On that thought I tried looking for a Norseman Maritime company. Needless to say, I didn&#039;t find any. Anywho, while doing that search found what may be another Norseman ship, a yacht. It was the 1st ship to pass through the newly opened Manchester Ship Canal 1/1/1894. That canal was opened in January with the <i>Norseman</i> leading a parade of vessels. The official celebration was in May 1894. Seems it was a big deal for it got Queen Vic out of the house/palace. She attended the May celebration. Here&#039;s a little about the canal opening and the Norseman.</p><p><br /></p><p>&quot;The formal opening of the Canal was conducted by Queen Victoria in May 1894, but before this royal visit an earlier opening had taken place that year on New Years&#039; Day which was just as well celebrated.</p><p><br /></p><p>&quot;At 10 o&#039;clock, on the sounding of a steam whistle, a procession of vessels led by Samuel Platt&#039;s grand steam yacht &#039;Norseman&#039; carrying the Company Directors set out on a journey along the Canal from Latchford. Thousands had travelled to see the New Year event and on the signal of the whistle, as described by Sir Bosdin Leech, &#039;a mighty sound of cheers was given, but this was quickly drowned out by the combined efforts of scores of steam whistles and sirens, it was perfect pandemonium&#039;&#039;</p><p><br /></p><p>Link to the above with a pic of the <i>Norseman</i>:</p><p><a href="http://www.canalarchive.org.uk/stories/pages.php?enum=TE127&amp;pnum=1&amp;maxp=2" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.canalarchive.org.uk/stories/pages.php?enum=TE127&amp;pnum=1&amp;maxp=2" rel="nofollow">http://www.canalarchive.org.uk/stories/pages.php?enum=TE127&amp;pnum=1&amp;maxp=2</a></p><p><br /></p><p>and this painting of her:</p><p><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/sidpickle/8788216253/in/photostream/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/sidpickle/8788216253/in/photostream/" rel="nofollow">https://www.flickr.com/photos/sidpickle/8788216253/in/photostream/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Quirky, I doubt you will ever be able to nail down what the Norseman was: maritime, railroad, hotel, etc... related. At least you know the maker and a timeframe for this Electro-plated German Silver creamer.</p><p><br /></p><p>--- Susan[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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