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<p>[QUOTE="Ladybranch, post: 39745, member: 44"]1 and 4:</p><p>The hats on 1 and 4 are probably the "drab" campaign hats that were introduced in 1882. By WWI the shape of these campaign hats had changed to round stiff brims like used in WWI and Smoky Bear's chapeau. The first of the campaign hats (sometimes called fatigue hats) were introduced c1872. They were not well received because they didn't keep their shape. By 1882 they were improved and "drab" was added to their name.</p><p><br /></p><p>Smithsonian website: <i>United States Army Headgear 1855-1902</i></p><p>Page 60 of the online file, page 52 Smithsonian: the beginning of the section "Fatigue or Campaign Hats, 1872-1902"</p><p>Page 66 of the online file, page 58 Smithsonian, fig. 40, picture of the 1876 campaign hat.</p><p>Pages 68 & 69 of the online file, pages 60 & 61 Smithsonian, figs. 41 and 42, pictures of the 1882 "drab" campaign hats.</p><p><a href="http://www.sil.si.edu/smithsoniancontributions/HistoryTechnology/pdf_lo/SSHT-0030.pdf" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.sil.si.edu/smithsoniancontributions/HistoryTechnology/pdf_lo/SSHT-0030.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.sil.si.edu/smithsoniancontributions/HistoryTechnology/pdf_lo/SSHT-0030.pdf</a></p><p><br /></p><p><i>Survey of U.S. Army Uniforms, Weapons and Accoutrements</i></p><p>Page 38 of the online version, page 35 of the actual publication says this particular campaign hat was worn 1883 through the Spanish-American was of 1898. We can't tell from this pic. if those hats have "a brass circular vent centered on each side of the crown" or to the 1889 design with "holes punched in each side of the crown in a 'snowflake' pattern."</p><p><a href="http://www.history.army.mil/html/museums/uniforms/survey_uwa.pdf" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.history.army.mil/html/museums/uniforms/survey_uwa.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.history.army.mil/html/museums/uniforms/survey_uwa.pdf</a></p><p><br /></p><p>2 and 3:</p><p>To be a bit redundant for Baker has already ID the hats on 2 and 3 as kepis. They were officially called forage caps, but usually referred to as "kepis" as Baker said. I believe we can narrow down the date a bit more by these hats. A new design forage cap was introduced in 1895. It was in the shape of a fireman's cap.</p><p><br /></p><p>"A new forage cap introduced in 1895 was similar to the caps worn by firemen and train conductors, and did not find favor with the troops. A solid brass branch insignia with a screw-post fastener on the reverse replaced the Pattern 1872 branch insignia in 1896."</p><p><br /></p><p><i>Survey of U.S. Army Uniforms, Weapons and Accoutrement</i></p><p>Page 39 online file, page 36 of the actual publication.</p><p><a href="http://www.history.army.mil/html/museums/uniforms/survey_uwa.pdf" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.history.army.mil/html/museums/uniforms/survey_uwa.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.history.army.mil/html/museums/uniforms/survey_uwa.pdf</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Smithsonian website: <i>United States Army Headgear 1855-1902</i></p><p>Page 56 online file, page 48 Smithsonian, beginning of the section on "Forage Caps"</p><p>Page 59, page 51 Smithsonian, Fig. 35, 1872 Officers forage caps, b. shows it in the low front position like the the officers in this pic are wearing theirs.</p><p><a href="http://www.sil.si.edu/smithsoniancontributions/HistoryTechnology/pdf_lo/SSHT-0030.pdf" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.sil.si.edu/smithsoniancontributions/HistoryTechnology/pdf_lo/SSHT-0030.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.sil.si.edu/smithsoniancontributions/HistoryTechnology/pdf_lo/SSHT-0030.pdf</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Nowwww, from what I have read it was not unusual for soldiers, officers and enlisted, to continue wearing a part of an uniform that was not 100% regulation. There is a good chance the men in the kepis were still wearing their old hats that they had spent years wearing and just didn't want to change to and/or didn't like the new regulation kepi caps. That first link under forage caps says the new design "did not find favor with the troops."</p><p><br /></p><p>--- Susan[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ladybranch, post: 39745, member: 44"]1 and 4: The hats on 1 and 4 are probably the "drab" campaign hats that were introduced in 1882. By WWI the shape of these campaign hats had changed to round stiff brims like used in WWI and Smoky Bear's chapeau. The first of the campaign hats (sometimes called fatigue hats) were introduced c1872. They were not well received because they didn't keep their shape. By 1882 they were improved and "drab" was added to their name. Smithsonian website: [I]United States Army Headgear 1855-1902[/I] Page 60 of the online file, page 52 Smithsonian: the beginning of the section "Fatigue or Campaign Hats, 1872-1902" Page 66 of the online file, page 58 Smithsonian, fig. 40, picture of the 1876 campaign hat. Pages 68 & 69 of the online file, pages 60 & 61 Smithsonian, figs. 41 and 42, pictures of the 1882 "drab" campaign hats. [url]http://www.sil.si.edu/smithsoniancontributions/HistoryTechnology/pdf_lo/SSHT-0030.pdf[/url] [I]Survey of U.S. Army Uniforms, Weapons and Accoutrements[/I] Page 38 of the online version, page 35 of the actual publication says this particular campaign hat was worn 1883 through the Spanish-American was of 1898. We can't tell from this pic. if those hats have "a brass circular vent centered on each side of the crown" or to the 1889 design with "holes punched in each side of the crown in a 'snowflake' pattern." [url]http://www.history.army.mil/html/museums/uniforms/survey_uwa.pdf[/url] 2 and 3: To be a bit redundant for Baker has already ID the hats on 2 and 3 as kepis. They were officially called forage caps, but usually referred to as "kepis" as Baker said. I believe we can narrow down the date a bit more by these hats. A new design forage cap was introduced in 1895. It was in the shape of a fireman's cap. "A new forage cap introduced in 1895 was similar to the caps worn by firemen and train conductors, and did not find favor with the troops. A solid brass branch insignia with a screw-post fastener on the reverse replaced the Pattern 1872 branch insignia in 1896." [I]Survey of U.S. Army Uniforms, Weapons and Accoutrement[/I] Page 39 online file, page 36 of the actual publication. [url]http://www.history.army.mil/html/museums/uniforms/survey_uwa.pdf[/url] Smithsonian website: [I]United States Army Headgear 1855-1902[/I] Page 56 online file, page 48 Smithsonian, beginning of the section on "Forage Caps" Page 59, page 51 Smithsonian, Fig. 35, 1872 Officers forage caps, b. shows it in the low front position like the the officers in this pic are wearing theirs. [url]http://www.sil.si.edu/smithsoniancontributions/HistoryTechnology/pdf_lo/SSHT-0030.pdf[/url] Nowwww, from what I have read it was not unusual for soldiers, officers and enlisted, to continue wearing a part of an uniform that was not 100% regulation. There is a good chance the men in the kepis were still wearing their old hats that they had spent years wearing and just didn't want to change to and/or didn't like the new regulation kepi caps. That first link under forage caps says the new design "did not find favor with the troops." --- Susan[/QUOTE]
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