Featured Antique Chinese Nephrite Jade Figurines OLD or MODERN??

how do you know that..?

 

A friend of mine possessing some of this in his collection.

 

which ones?
R they new or old ?

 

old one mate.

 

Some warning signs of fakes. These are ones from my own fakes collection, pretty pieces, all hand made, very cheap and all tested positive for jade.

Scratch lines on the inside of the curve. The design scratch lines are light and powdery looking.


A Hongshan repro pig-dragon. You have a few in your collection. Hongshan pig-dragons are never decorated.
This one is not symmetrical, which is good and it is perfectly charming, but....

Although the tapering shape and irregularity of the drill holes is right, the lines on the inside are a warning sign


Lines around the eyes, we all get them, but Hongshan pig-dragon don't. They are nice and smooth on every part of the surface. These are scratch lines.


One of your pig-dragons, nicely decorated along the curve of its body, which it shouldn't be. So, sorry, not real, in spite of the funnel-shaped drill hole.


Back to my fakes. Artificial acid pitting to suggest age erosion on Hongshan style bird. Hongshan jades are smooth as a baby's bottom, they don't have pitting

 

Scott, I already spoke of the issue of fake calcification in your other thread:'https://www.antiquers.com/threads/ancient-chinese-artifact.36564/page-2#post-571915
You can see another example here, from the same photo as your pig-dragon from the last post. The calcification looks on the surface, flaky. Natural calcification is smooth and part of the stone.

 

Ill have to double check the one thats calcified. It didnt seem flakey and is very smooth.

 

I should have explained it better, I didn't mean that flakes would come off, but that it looks like it is a superficial layer, just on the surface. In the example I showed in the other thread part of the stone has calcified in deeper layers. Maybe a closeup photo of the bird would help?

 

The close ups are of the opening where the cystal like substance meets the stone

 

This piece feels very light weight, possibly wood?

 

It is a netsuke. Netsuke are Japanese, but they are also made in China for the Japanese market.
Sadly it looks like blackened resin. There are small 'dents' in the material where the air bubbles have popped, and the black layer is worn off in places, showing the plasticky material underneath. It is very cute, but not real imo.

The semi circular Liangzhu style piece is another repro. You can see the lines in the drill hole I warned about in the examples from my own repro collection.
Scott, I am so glad you didn't pay much for this collection. The gentleman who sold it to you clearly didn't know anything about archaic jades.

 

In all respect to the guy that sold them to me, the pieces that he did keep, he had taken to christies. He also told me about the ones i bought, some were repos and that "some" may be real. But i figured it was worth the gamble. I knew nothing about these before and now i know alot. And found a cool spot to show off my treasure

 

You wanted help regarding your 'treasures' and you got it .. from one of the very best. Now you can't stomach the replies and want to argue the point. Also, you never mentioned Christies at the beginning of your post but only when you saw answers from here that you didn't want to hear ... believe what you want !!! Well done AJ, Very informative, Joy.

 

Slightly rude, but ok lol. I didnt think i was arguing? I got all the info i needed to help me spot a fake...which clearly they are. I learned alot. And about the christies paperwork....i saw what i saw, plain and simple...call me a liar or whatever, i have no reason to lie. I got a lot of amazing things from that guy. No complaints from me. So i will enjoy my "treasures" and continue to display some of them on this forum, fake or not

 

Good for you !! .. Go for it !!! .. Joy.

 

Could we see a piece or two of yours that you feel is genuine? Would love to see the real deal! Many thanks for your very informative posts.

 

u gonna post this on every old tread?

 

Do you mean a netsuke or a Liangzhu jade?